I just watched an episode of "I (Almost) Got Away With It" on television and became peeved at what I saw.
Kerry Silvers was sentenced to 61 years in a state prison for forgery and theft, contrary to what the show stated, which they said was 55 years for robbery and battery. Remember he's the bad guy. The sentence has to seem fair, somehow.
Anyway, he and a few other inmates escaped from prison. He fashioned a fake gun from toilet paper, a permanent marker, and tape. Again, the show had to make it seem bad by saying it was toilet paper and a homemade knife. He and the other inmates used the fake gun to subdue a couple of guards and secure their weapons. They then use the real guns to hold them up and they calmly walked out of prison.
The other two inmates were picked up rather quickly. He on the other hand, made it to the buffer zone between America and Mexico. He thought he was in Mexico when he quickly found out that he could not make past the military checkpoints neither into Mexico nor back into the United States. Nobody there would give him a job, so he ended up eating out of the trash and started to plan to swim through the Rio Grande back into Texas.
At this point, an American man offered him a job growing pot. They started growing, exporting, and selling high-grade pot. He and the American man stopped selling pot after a while, and now that Kerry had enough money, he and a woman that he had fallen in love with moved to Veracruz, Mexico where he got a job a a banana farm. Now, I don't remember where the baby came from, if he and the woman had it or if it was the woman's from a previous relationship, but he was now supporting the woman and the child now. Eventually, they got married as well.
One day, he set up his computer, the only thing he brought with him from America. His neighbors, noticing this, asked him to give computer lessons to their kids. After a while, he started teaching about computers at a school in the area. He then opened up his own business, an Internet cafe, as well.
At some point, he was approached by a man who offered him a job at the largest school in the state, teaching English. He sold his business and moved. After settling in, he opened up a video store.
One day on the way to his store, he was grabbed by a Mexican man and he quickly tried to fight back. He was then told by an American man behind him that they were U.S. Marshalls and he was under arrest and Kerry stop resisting. Kerry has now been back in prison for five years and is still awaiting trial for escaping prison.
Kerry Silvers had not only left behind his life of crime, but had become a more prominent contributor to society than the Marshalls that picked him up. He never killed or even injured anyone. He may have scared the shit out of those guards, but he didn't harm or have any intention of harming them.
Now, am I the only one who thinks that this is bullshit and that the justice system has missed the point? This story here is proof that the justice system is not about justice; it's about revenge.
Well, I don't think he should be allowed to stay out of jail after breaking out just because he decided to stop committing crimes. Put yourself in an inmates shoes: say you did the exact same crime Kelly did but you never found anyway to escape. Is that fair to you that some other guy escapes from jail and doesn't have to serve his term while you have to rot in a cell? Kelly isn't some special exception - he has to serve his time just like everybody else does whether hes being a good citizen or not. I'm sure several people in prison wouldn't commit crimes anymore if they got out. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be punished for their actions.
Furthermore, if this Kelly character murdered your entire family, got imprisoned, broke out and started a good, honest business helping the community, I doubt you'd be like "Well, even though he murdered my entire family and everyone I ever cared about, he doesn't commit crimes anymore and runs an Internet Cafe now, so therefore he does not belong in prison." I don't like the justice system either. But our reasons why are pretty different. |
You miss the point. He was sentenced to 61 years for a crime where no one was injured. His sentencing was unfair to begin with.
And yes, it's perfectly fair that he was able to break out when someone else wasn't. The part that angers me is that he's not a physical threat to anybody. There are far greater concerns that the justice system should have been working on. I've seen people get away with a lesser sentence for murder. |
That doesn't matter. If we had a society where you get a lenient punishment for any sort of crime simply because nobody was physically injured, people would feel more free to get away with all sorts of crap. I could sell nuclear secrets to Syria and make a huge profit, knowing I'd only get 5 years or so in the big house.
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Hiro the Dragon King wrote:
You miss the point. He was sentenced to 61 years for a crime where no one was injured. His sentencing was unfair to begin with. I still don't see how Kelly is justified in subduing officers and breaking his way out of jail. And yes, it's perfectly fair that he was able to break out when someone else wasn't. Care to explain how? The part that angers me is that he's not a physical threat to anybody. There are far greater concerns that the justice system should have been working on. I've seen people get away with a lesser sentence for murder. Indeed, I have too. This is why I think the justice system is unfair. But not because some Kelly guy got caught after escaping from jail even though he eventually became a "good citizen". |
Hiro the Dragon King wrote:
So extortion deserves a sentence 3 times longer than murder? The unfairness of his sentence does not justify any of his actions, nor does it make his escape fair to any of the other inmates that could be serving time for crimes similar to his own. |
1) I think it's perfectly justified to try and escape after given a completely unfair sentence.
2) Survival of the fittest. 3) What is the point of justice? If someone has obviously learned their lesson then why ruin their life? What is the point of ruining a life if not for a reason? If the lesson is learned, is justice not served? |
My brother-in-law and his wife are both corrections officers and they provided me with the four basics of justice; retribution, deterrence, rehabilitation, and incapacitation. These are the reasonings for sentencing.
Just my opinion here, but retribution is the problem with everything in the world as it is. Deterrence is also a bullshit reason to incarcerate a person. That leaves the last two; rehabilitation and incarceration. The problem with the system is that rehabilitation, the most important idea, doesn't exist. Probation isn't rehabilitation by any definition. Keeping an loose guard on someone and incarcerating them (or ignoring them in my count) if they do something wrong is just retarded. Incarceration is huge problem as well. It seems like every crime has the same punishment; "lock 'em up!" In truth, incarceration should only be used in situations such as temporary detainment and murderers or repeat offenders. |
Why are you belittling the US Marshals? You're telling me that they aren't prominent contributors to society?
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There's certainly a lot of armchair hecklers on the Internet who figure a small pocketful of information they heard on TV or on a website somewhere is all they need to call into question the judgments of the law enforcement professionals who have to deal with the whole sordid affair and its gritty details day in, day out.
Suffice to say, overpowering your guards, threatening your way out of prison with a fake gun, and escaping to Mexico is not how the appeal process works. Further, teaching Mexican kids how to use computers or meeting that special someone are not recognized forms of rehabilitation for armed robbers. |
Fugsnarf wrote:
Why are you belittling the US Marshals? You're telling me that they aren't prominent contributors to society?No, they aren't. Considering murderers can walk the streets instead of getting the death penalty like they SHOULD get but it's too "inhumane" for the goddamn pansies. |
@Moonlight Memento
You have to understand one fundamental issue with the death penalty, the justice system is not perfect therefore not because someone is sentenced means they were actually guilty of a crime. Example: Not too long ago a african-american teen was accused of armed robbery the witnesses ID'd this young man as the culprit and swore blindly that he is the man that held a gun to their face and robbed them. Only for facebook to be called in as an electronic witness to show that this young man was using his account at time of the robbery showing him to be innocent of charges pressed. (Some may say he could have gotten someone to do it for him but thats just another loophole argument) Now. Yes he would not have gotten the death penalty as armed robbery isn't the qualification but it just shows that sometimes the justice system falls wide of the mark and you could end up taking the life of innocent harmless individuals. Also in a country like mine (Jamaica) were corruption and class prejudice is prevalent people get sentenced just because people in big places want them to. Imagine if someone with money could practically pay for your death. Until the system is perfected, if it ever is. I won't always be in full support though some cases I will digress and agree that these heinous individuals be halted permanently. |
You're an idiot. Maybe this will make you lean your selfish sense of justice in another direction?
This guy is also a registered sex offender (seriously, google it) and probably has multiple charges in addition to this. He was probably given several light sentences for past crimes, you don't get something this heavy unless you have prior convictions. He wasn't allowed to even be around kids...Let alone be teaching them computers. Feel free to give me the pro-sex-offender side of the argument. The justice system does fail sometimes, but it works most of the time...Especially in this case, this man obviously wasn't going to abide by any law, and showed this by breaking out of prison. He was a danger to society. |
I'd like to see where you are getting your information, Icewarrior. I cannot find anything about him being a sex offender... anywhere.
But I did find this interesting article. EDIT: I just checked the national sex offender registry and his name is not in it. So, either they're wrong or you are. |
Your allegations are pretty strong as well. Any media that blatantly lies about a true event while presenting it as the truth can be prosecuted for libel. Accusations should not be thrown around liberally.