Alcoholism Affects the Family and Society

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Mar 10 2010, 5:46 am
"In a recent Gallup poll, 90% of people surveyed believe that alcoholism is a disease. Most argue that because the American Medical Association (AMA) has proclaimed alcoholism a disease, the idea is without reproach.

But, the fact is that the AMA made this determination in the absence of empirical evidence. After reviewing the history of the decision, it would not be unreasonable to suggest that the AMA has been pursuing its own agenda in the face of evidence negating the validity of alcoholism. "

http://www.addictioninfo.org/articles/447/1/ Alcoholism-is-not-a-Disease/Page1.html
Mar 10 2010, 5:49 am
KatieKate wrote:
but a disease can be defined as a disorder lol. read some dictionaries mann

Can be != is definitely

Learn the understanding of context wooomaaan.
Mar 10 2010, 5:50 am
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Mar 10 2010, 5:51 am
except we speak english, and by the majority of our literacy governing bodies, aka, dictionarys, alcholhism is a disease.
Mar 10 2010, 5:58 am
KatieKate wrote:
except we speak english, and by the majority of our literacy governing bodies, aka, dictionarys, alcholhism is a disease.

That's some good completely ignoring the two paragraphs I posted and the link giving discussion as to why most people believe it's a disease when it is not.

It's okay, you stick with your spoon fed beliefs that dictionaries are truth, the bible is a doctrine of the absolute and the AMA are completely infallible.

I'll be over here in a sane country watching some of the worlds best medical scientists continue to make breakthroughs in a cancer cure.
Mar 10 2010, 6:00 am
except it's just not the AMA though. you're choosing to ignore that. If you google it, the clear majority are saying that alcoholism IS a disease. how can you possibly claim that NO. It's ALL WRONG. I am right because I have this one source that says I am.

i like how your argument instantly changes into "insult the competition! it'll make it seem like I won!"
Mar 10 2010, 6:00 am
Tiberath wrote:
That's some good completely ignoring the two paragraphs I posted and the link giving discussion as to why most people believe it's a disease when it is not.

This is because KatieKate is exactly the type of person Murrawhip described.
Mar 10 2010, 6:05 am
Tiberath wrote:
I'll be over here in a sane country watching some of the worlds best medical scientists continue to make breakthroughs in a cancer cure.

ohhh and i'm in australia too.
Mar 10 2010, 6:11 am
KatieKate wrote:
i like how your argument instantly changes into "insult the competition! it'll make it seem like I won!"

It's a better strategy than "THE DICTIONARY SAYS IT'S TRUE THEREFORE IT MUST BE! I AM CORRECT BECAUSE GOOGLE SAYS THE MAJORITY AGREE WITH ME EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE GIVEN EXPLANATIONS AS TO WHY THE MAJORITY AGREE WITH ME AND ARE STILL WRONG"

ohhh and i'm in australia too.

And my heart bleeds (literally, inherited heart defect) for my country now. ... No, I'm lying, I'm fully aware that Australia has it's fair share of wrong people.
Mar 10 2010, 6:16 am
Okay, my internet is about to die, so I'll leave you with: I hope you're aware the americans are now making fun of us because of you insisting on being incorrect.

Also, it's 3am. Go to bed.
Mar 10 2010, 8:01 am
Lol. Good night Tiberath..
Mar 10 2010, 1:35 pm (Edited on Mar 10 2010, 1:40 pm)
Damn, I must have a disease because I'm addicted to sex. ;[
Mar 10 2010, 2:21 pm
I appears that you have a common case of sexitis.
Mar 10 2010, 4:29 pm
I thought I stated this earlier...but whatever. Alcoholism is not a disease. Popular opinion =/= fact.

Anybody can post a definition on here, but it lacks a real source, so you might as well use wiki. A REAL source would mean there was a study done with scientific and/or medical backing proving or disproving said study.

So based on common knowledge, Addiction =/= Disease. We know this. I have a caffeine addiction, not a disease. People with a methamphetamine addiction don't have a disease. These are BOTH examples of physiological(and psychological to a lesser extent) addictions to drugs. They aren't diseases. Another would be tobacco(Nicotine) addiction. Again, not a disease.

So explain HOW alcohol is different. It's a psychological(and in extreme cases, physiological) dependency on alcohol, or rather the effects of alcohol.

The argument was originally made stating alcoholism = disease, therefore, the burden of evidence is on proving it is. I've stated enough to disprove it, so please, counter with EVIDENCE.
Mar 10 2010, 5:29 pm (Edited on Mar 10 2010, 6:58 pm)
Kate and the other blockhead are basically saying that any addiction is a disease? AIDS is a disease, an infection. not an addiction. Alcohol is an addiction, not a disease. Douchebags
Mar 10 2010, 7:00 pm
Disturbed Puppy wrote:
so please, counter with EVIDENCE.

You're going to get Dictionary definitions, AMA diagnosis and Wikipedia links. As all three say it's a disease, and concurrently, all three are wrong.

Caffeine and nicotine are my vices. Clearly I have two diseases. =O
Mar 10 2010, 8:35 pm
Tiberath wrote:
Disturbed Puppy wrote:
so please, counter with EVIDENCE.

You're going to get Dictionary definitions, AMA diagnosis and Wikipedia links. As all three say it's a disease, and concurrently, all three are wrong.

Caffeine and nicotine are my vices. Clearly I have two diseases. =O

Apparently I have a disease because I'm addicted to knockers and vajjs.
Mar 11 2010, 2:50 am
Lol, Darkwizard is funny xD
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