BYOND has been down more often than any shell I've ever rented, but I wouldn't contribute it all to crashing. My point is why rely on BYOND.
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Stevenw9 wrote:
BYOND has been down more often than any shell I've ever rented, but I wouldn't contribute it all to crashing. My point is why rely on BYOND. Somehow I doubt that. |
Bravo1 wrote:
Stevenw9 wrote: You can doubt it if you want to. I'm not here to debate logistics, just trying to understand where this person is coming from. |
The point is: The scores are already there and already being used by many games, but they are still difficult to use as the commands that are used to change them are a bit counter-intuitive. This change would make things much easier on the developers and would use less network traffic overall.
As for debating, I doubt that your server stored scores can be viewed without playing the game, unlike the BYOND scores. On top of that, I really doubt they can be dynamically sorted. To top it off, should something happen to your shell, there's chances that your scores could be lost for good, unlike the BYOND servers which keeps backups, and if they are inaccessible it's only ever for a very short time. Also, it's free for us to use while your shell costs you money. I really don't see the benefits of your shell other than for hosting games themselves. |
A MySQL database with the proper tools (like backup tools) can solve those problems. Not to mention, yes, you can display those scores out of game on any website you build. You're right on your major points though. Compatibility and monetary cost get in the way with my route. It'd only be good for someone trying to not be attached to BYOND at the hip.
I'll throw my vote behind this. |
Doing everything yourself can obviously lead to better results, but people use BYOND because it's a convenience. Suggesting that developers should ignore BYOND's scoreboards and create their own misses the point.
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Falacy wrote:
Developer accessible SQL databases provided by BYOND? It would be nice and it makes sense, but I doubt they'd do that. Also, if the game developer controls what's in the database, how does the hub entry know what to display on the "standings" tab? |
We already have to setup categories for hub scores, we could throw in a table name. Or, they could let us setup our own queries (which we would presumably be able to do on external pages), so we can actually customize our scoreboards.
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I feel like we're using a pen but everyone's asking for a pencil. I'd rather keep my scores server side or in my own database in case something unfortunate happens, like the BYOND site being inaccessible.