Haha, Hulio's still going on about this? Insulting other people doesn't change the fact that the base given isn't good.
Before you go throwing insults at me, you don't have to be a chef(pixel artist) to know that the toast(icon) is burnt(not worth $20). The heaping majority would agree with this principle.
I'm usually not one to back up Masterdan(not that I have anything against him), but he definitely did not kill BYOND. After GOA was released, everyone else that wanted to be taken seriously had to raise the bar. If anything, he saved BYOND(Anime) from remaining a stagnant cess pool of unimaginative 12 year old Naruto fanboys. I don't know where you were at, but I pretty much packed up and moved to Seika at the time GOA was getting started. BA was nothing more than BOTLS and Zeta rips. Now, at least, there are games with original material.
I don't know where you get off calling people "crappy coders" either. Have you seen the sources in question? Would you know what to do if you did see them? You're probably wanting to use the example I gave above, but sadly, you don't have the taste buds or the eyes(knowledge of DM) to tell the toast(code) is burnt(crap).
Even with the edits, it's not worth $20. The legs are still disproportionate, pixelated, and seemingly unshaded sticks.
That's pretty much the bottom line here, coming from someone who isn't a troll. Have a good night.
You guys don't understand. You're going to tell the calculus professor, that his math sucks? Then tell him he cant take criticism from YOU the student? who has no credentials. Of course he fucken wont, because he knows what he's freaking talking about. THAT'S WHY HE HAS THE JOB! If anyone's going to tell him his math sucks it's should be other professors. Because they'll prove it and they know what they're talking about.
@ THE HOKAGE Masterdan, I feel the same way about my personal work that you do about your personal blog. This ain't a god damn forum, If I wanted MY personal work to be critiqued I'd post my PERSONAL work at a forum. THIS BASE AIN'T PERSONAL. I COULD CARE LESS. When it comes to 32x32, small shit. I know every base technique there is in the god damn book. BECAUSE THAT'S ALL I DID FOR 5 GOD DAMN YEARS. So what the fuck am I gonna learn from any of you? Do I have to talk to you in terms of Naruto for you to get it in your head? KAKASHI SENSAI. He knows 1000 techniques. He can only use a few of them at a time. But if you wanted him to use another you should've fucken said so. Masterdan wrote: Sorry, which version? I am pretty sure this thread is about the one I compared. Not the subsequent revisions I told you that you had an obligation to make. But the yellow base has now been deemed a prototype. Why do you care whether it is revised or not? All I did was add a few pixels? Are you afraid that it's that much drastically different? *GASP* Are you saying that ice could've waited for me to make it better instead of crying? @ DP It appears we have a new member to the shitstorm. Everyone welcome DP! You've got "fundamental" critiques? -no shading ( what do any of you know about shading really? ) -disproportions? (throwing words out randomly to make yourself look smart?) Talk is cheap. If you can't doodle it, you're a fake artist who needs to go away because he isn't paying me. I'm not pixeling what you like, that isn't my goal. I get annoyed when I see people talking about shit they have no understanding about. You never saw me dissing code in 08. And don't talk about good and bad. As if I was making this for myself. It's not my taste, it's his taste. So I could care less. You're deemed chef when you can satisfy individuals. I showed him the work, he said "good". I did what i'm known to do. I did me, I make the client say "good". That's all there is to it really. It's not about "make a base that satisfies Rugg, Masterdan and the entire byond community". Fuck everyone else, it's about who is giving you the money. The same thing goes for code. If you cant explain, follow or doodle whats going on in the heap or run time stack. Your ass shouldn't programming anyway. But just like you say DP. You don't need to be a chef to spot shit. ------ And don't start getting it in your mind that Hulio doesn't take critiques, how do you think I got where I am? Being open minded, versatile, and motivated. Every fucken day, trying to satisfy 2 dozen people with the same pieces of work. Overtime, people became too easy to satisfy, so you start to sever these bonds. It wasn't until long that I actually had none. I had to actually LEAVE my comfort zone of byond and go find people that knew more than I. Real recognize real. BELIEVE me, if a real artist got on a newb key. And started talking about everything that was messed up. I would see it. But people like you, dont know what the hell you're talking about. Which is why shitstorm. I take critique from people who know what they are talking about. You think you're better then Masterdan, Ice or Rugg. Why? "Just because", you're neutral? You're good and not a troll? You have good behavior? Who the hell cares. You want to prove you're a step ahead of them then do something different from everyone else in this tread. Open up paint, grab your pencil tool and prove it. Go ahead, DOODLE it. Do what Amon, Chris and these guys do everyday. I'm telling you to school Hulio-G and beat him at his own game. That's how you have a fucken conversation about pixel art. You don't go back and forth firing off useless words. "DISPROPORTIONS!" You show us. --------------------- I've been dying to see atleast ONE good post from one of you. In a failed attempted to prove that base is bad and that the GOAS is better. One with illustrations. Let me see JUST ONE GOOD POST. I'll promise I'll give an in depth fucken analysis (FULL OF PICTURES YAY) on WHY this base is that much better then GOAS or any other typical generic base. Otherwise reply to me like faggot. And we'll all just flood this bitch ass blog with more shitty posts. | |
Oh Hulio, you are making such an ass out of yourself and somehow you cant even see it.
You're not a graphic art master,if it takes you 5 weeks to make this "prototype" then you clearly arent anywhere near a professional state for graphic art. Also, your retarded responses to criticism has shown that you are useless in any practical sense, nobody gets paid to do something if they cant handle a simple "this isnt good" without going on a month long tear making absolutely no sense or coherent points, you do this at a job and your fired in an instant. Maybe that's why you have absolutely no way of converting the 5 years you wasted on learning pixel art into anything monetary, because you cant work with people or show the work ethic to work on a reasonable schedule. | |
We all know hulio can make the pizza...but what good is that when you deliver it 4 hours late and missing half the toppings you ordered?
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Hulio-G wrote:
-no shading ( what do any of you know about shading really? ) I know enough to look at an icon and see no light source whatsoever in the legs. -disproportions? (throwing words out randomly to make yourself look smart?) I'd like to see when I said "Disproportions" in my post. I believed the word I used was disproportionate*. It's a real word, and I don't feel the need to sound smart(or argue I'm right despite a mountain of evidence pointing in the direction). I love how you're skirting the argument. Please, show me how this base is scale to a human, or Anime figure outside of a chibi style. Keep in mind the burden of evidence is on you to prove to the community that this piece is worth the money. It's no longer satisfactory(another big word, I hope you can keep up with me Hulio)* to just say "he liked it." Your job is now to explain to the community how you can charge someone twenty dollars for something that didn't take you nearly twenty dollars of effort. But I digress, and I'll have to show you what I mean, since everyone explaining it to you in words wasn't nearly enough here. With regards to proportion*: http://www.byond.com/members/DisturbedPuppy/files/ critique1.png That's a clear example. With regards to Shading: http://www.byond.com/members/DisturbedPuppy/files/ critique2.png Again, speaks for itself. Please don't say I have no idea what I'm talking about, I do. I may not be the best at pixel art, but I'm far from some "noob ass troll." *- I'm rarely criticized for "trying to sound smart." I find really fucking distasteful that you'd accuse me of something like this. I'm a history major, and have been on the chancellor's/president's list every semester I've been in college. What I type on the fly(which is everything I put on BYOND) is NOTHING compared to the analysis I did on the Axis forces' positioning prior to Operation: Market Garden, or for that matter the thesis I'm working on for my bachelors degree. Disproportionate is a big word, but it's not something that's hard to understand. Most of the words I use are still in the high school curriculum, so if you're suggesting I'm trying to sound smart by using 12th grade English, you're a fool. | |
*- I'm rarely criticized for "trying to sound smart." I find really fucking distasteful that you'd accuse me of something like this. I'm a history major, and have been on the chancellor's/president's list every semester I've been in college. What I type on the fly(which is everything I put on BYOND) is NOTHING compared to the analysis I did on the Axis forces' positioning prior to Operation: Market Garden, or for that matter the thesis I'm working on for my bachelors degree. Disproportionate is a big word, but it's not something that's hard to understand. Most of the words I use are still in the high school curriculum, so if you're suggesting I'm trying to sound smart by using 12th grade English, you're a fool. Well you know how people around the internet shorten words and can't spell for shit so when you do it better they say your trying to sound smart. Maybe he's not trying, maybe he just is smart O_o P.S. The base dose fail but it would have been smarter to get Manny V to do it instead of a Half Asser ( No asser is not a word lol) | |
Ganing wrote:
This is why niggers are ruining the internet. Niggers? why you have to be so racism cracka don't be mad cause we got a black president roflmao | |
So I did win, right? If so, I demand my internets.
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Sorry, which version? I am pretty sure this thread is about the one I compared. Not the subsequent revisions I told you that you had an obligation to make.