woot... another change, well i decided that yes id do the 2d version first but not on byond, code it in java or what not, do basic icons of the character types and have player own houses in the begining, as well as a good bit of costumization. and my freind in class is going to have a server and hes a nice person and wants to host the website and game on his server and hes going to help me alot with it. he has been around coding since punch cards so i call him a coding guru. then after this game is active for a while i can round the fine points out with another freind. this should be fun all ireally have to do now is make a java game engine and such. then i can build upon that. x.x