I'm a huge fan of the original game - my dad and I play it on Xbox Live together all the time. I was anxiously awaiting the release of the sequel, and it definitely didn't disappoint.
Multiplayer
I really miss playing on some of the old maps, but the new maps are all pretty good (if not a bit overly complex).
All of the new perks (and secondary perks) are just downright awesome. Being able to use two weapon attachments is my favorite new perk by far. The customizable killstreak rewards are great... the air drop in particular is really inspired.
All of the new weapons are both balanced and fun - I love the machine pistols. The Riot Shield adds a whole new layer of depth and strategy to the game (and encourages teamwork). Plus, there's nothing more fun that the Riot Shield + Throwing Knife combo.
After having played the original to death, I'm happy to say that Infinity Ward struck the perfect balance between awesome new features and retaining a sense of familiarity in the gameplay.
I know a lot of PC players b****ed and moaned about the watered down online features... but nobody likes PC gamers anyway. Seriously, who buys/rebuilds a new computer every other year just so that they can play the latest games? I personally prefer mouse and keyboard controls, but I'm happy to stick with Counter Strike: Source on the PC.
Special Ops
This two-player co-op mode is an amazing addition. I think that designing specific co-op levles is a much better concept than haphazardly adding a second player to the regular campaign.
Having beat the single player campaign on Veteran difficulty, I'm finding Special Ops to be much, much harder. The "defend this position" levels are by far the most fun... I wish there were more of them.
Single Player
I doubt that anyone is actually going to buy MW2 for just the single player. As a single player game, it definitely wouldn't justify more than a rental (it's only 4-5 hours long).
The story is bad. Really bad. That said, the levels themselves are amazing, and the game truly feels epic. I'm really happy that they got rid of the infinitely respawning enemies.
All in all, this game will definitely keep me busy for a long time. If they include some of the original maps in the forthcoming DLC, it will be near-perfect.
[Edit] Almost forgot -- the fact that they disabled Xbox Live Party chat in online games is the most asinine decision EVER. If it weren't for a hacky workaround, it might be a deal breaker for me. I seriously hate online FPS gamers - being forced into a chat channel with them is beyond acceptable. [/Edit]
Nov 25 2009, 5:18 am
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Yammen
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Spec ops isn't that great of the addition, and from what I've seen, the multiplayer is worse than CoD4. The game isn't worth buying, it's only worth a rental.
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I don't get it... It is like people just don't actually know what they like, and have other people (video game publishers) decide their opinions for them.
Modern Warfare 2 is a downgrade to the first in every single way possible. No dedicated servers and very poor match making functions (why does the game think it is good to constantly match you up with people who are literally across the word) Lower player cap Multiplayer is very imbalanced (use a riot shield and you will see what I mean). Multiplayer is lacking some other functions from the first (where was that long list?). FOV is limited to 65 (for some reason, once you join the military, you develop severe tunnel vision) Not balanced for lean. Single player is like 4 hours long. They are already working on paid for DLC, some of which you probably have already bought before (maps from the first game, sure is making you pay for stuff you already own in here!) All this, and the game cost more money? And isn't the 3rd Modern Warfare in development and going to be release like next year? Oh well. At least Bobby Kotick is laughing at you, while wiping his ass with $100 bills. You people are the cancer killing video games. | |
The Magic Man wrote:
Blah blah blah complaints about the PC version I'm not talking about the PC version. PC gamers are generally a bunch of haughty whiners like you anyway -- they complain like this about every game. The Magic Man wrote: Multiplayer is very imbalanced (use a riot shield and you will see what I mean). Anyone who thinks that the Riot Shield is unbalanced just hasn't figured out one of the million ways to counter it. (In other words, you suck). The Magic Man wrote: They are already working on paid for DLC, some of which you probably have already bought before (maps from the first game, sure is making you pay for stuff you already own in here!) MW2 is packed full of content and well worth the asking price - any additional DLC costs are completely justifiable. Also, just because a map is available in one game doesn't mean that I "own it" for life. Again, you PC gamers are a bunch of entitled idiots. The Magic Man wrote: And isn't the 3rd Modern Warfare in development and going to be release like next year? No, but it's not surprising that someone as ignorant as you just pulls rumors out of their ass like that! The Magic Man wrote: You people are the cancer killing video games. Coming from someone who makes games that are shitty even by BYOND's low standards, that statement is actually pretty funny. Even if Modern Warfare 2 isn't your cup of tea, there is no denying its quality. Yammen wrote: Spec ops isn't that great of the addition, and from what I've seen, the multiplayer is worse than CoD4. The game isn't worth buying, it's only worth a rental. Well, those are some pretty compelling reasons you gave. You definitely make a lot of sense. | |
stop crying and throwing around 4chan phrases, magic man. it's extremely old
i applaud your ability to pick out any and all aspects of the game that could be considered negative while leaving out anything positive, however unfortunately it's simply not an accurate way to 'review' a game it's also quite ironic that you accused silk of gleaning his own opinion from "other people (video game publishers" when this entire post is him explaining his own personal opinion on the game -not- coming from anyone else's mouth. i'm suspicious that you commented only because of that line where silk bashed PC gamers... in which case | |
SilkWizard wrote:
The Magic Man wrote: Silk, I'm a PC gamer before I'm a console gamer. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't group TMM in the same group as me. | |
Yammen wrote:
Silk, I'm a PC gamer before I'm a console gamer. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't group TMM in the same group as me. Deal, so long as you never quote an entire comment thread just to reply to one small part of it again :) | |
1. I never mentioned anything about PC or console versions.
But for your information, those problems exist on the PC and console versions. 2. Anyone who says the riot shield is balanced needs to play the game some more. In the hands of a skilled (troll) player it pretty much causes the entire other team to rage quit, every single time. 3. MW2 has less content that the original, and cost more. I don't even know how you could try to argue against this. But whatever, pay for stuff you have already paid for before. If you enjoy being nickel and dimed, it is your money to throw away. 4. I am pretty sure it is in development though. 5. Someone who made a bunch of crap games is insulting my crap games and then is comparing them to a website/program which has produced nothing but crap games? I'm not sure how I should reply to that. To Zaole. Cool story bro. Also, I am not crying or whining. I am pointing out, the game is way over hyped. It has some good points (as pointed out, general quality), but if you ask me, the bad far out weighs the good. And a lot of the bad parts about the game exist for entirely no reason at all, or at least no valid reason I can see (other than to minimize money invested into the game to maximize profits). | |
TMM, you aren't even making any sense. You can't rebut my replies by simply restating the same exact things.
Your schizophrenic claims are so easy to debunk, I'm not sure why you bother making them in the first place. For example: The Magic Man wrote: I never mentioned anything about PC or console versions. I'm not talking about the PC version. But you are. Because only the PC version costs more than the original. The campaign is roughly the same size. The online mode is greatly expanded from the original, with a lot more weapons, perks, maps, and features that make for much more replayability. Oh, and then you have the addition of an entirely new mode in Special Ops. So actually, you get much more content for your money. The Magic Man wrote: In the hands of a skilled (troll) player it pretty much causes the entire other team to rage quit, every single time. I have never "rage quit" the game, nor have any of my family members or friends who I play with online. Again, I think that you just really, really suck. Question: how are you playing this crappy overpriced game that you hate so much? Are you one of the "sheep" who bought it? | |
The Magic Man wrote:
1. I never mentioned anything about PC or console versions. But for your information, those problems exist on the PC and console versions. Based on what you were complaining about, it was obvious you were focusing on the PC's issues. The Magic Man wrote: 2. Anyone who says the riot shield is balanced needs to play the game some more. In the hands of a skilled (troll) player it pretty much causes the entire other team to rage quit, every single time. Uhm, you haven't played many online FPS games have you? It's the same deal with the gravity hammer, and noob combo. There's always something little babies complain about because they can't figure out how to counteract it. It's a legit feature, and a legit strategy, get over it. The Magic Man wrote: 3. MW2 has less content that the original, and cost more. I don't even know how you could try to argue against this. I agree on this part. The game shouldn't have been priced the same as CoD4. However, this happens with every game and sequel of a game, get over it. The Magic Man wrote: But whatever, pay for stuff you have already paid for before. If you enjoy being nickel and dimed, it is your money to throw away. Yeah.. Buying maps from an old game doesn't have shit to do with buying it before. Alot of the time these map packs are revised versions of the previous maps from the old game. So get over it already. The Magic Man wrote: 4. I am pretty sure it is in development though. Information, or gtfo. The Magic Man wrote: 5. Someone who made a bunch of crap games is insulting my crap games and then is comparing them to a website/program which has produced nothing but crap games? I'm not sure how I should reply to that. Uhm, what? I've played some of Silk's games, they're not crap. You just seem a little flustered so you're going to take a little bitch stab at Silk. The Magic Man wrote: Also, I am not crying or whining. I am pointing out, the game is way over hyped. It has some good points (as pointed out, general quality), but if you ask me, the bad far out weighs the good. I agree that the game is over-hyped. However, alot of your arguments in your first post were geared towards the PC version. The console versions have nothing to do with the dedicated severs argument. Also, for your information, there's a little work around for dedicated severs. You didn't think people would sit around with their thumbs up their asses and accept what the game developers worked on, did you? The Magic Man wrote: And a lot of the bad parts about the game exist for entirely no reason at all, or at least no valid reason I can see (other than to minimize money invested into the game to maximize profits). Yeah.. What bad parts are you talking about? Yeah, I agree that it's shitty that there's a player cap, but it doesn't make it bad. I prefer smaller maps with less people. It makes it easier to think and come up with a strategy. However, I came from the glory days of Halo 2 gaming. Team Snipers ftw~ | |
Silk, I don't believe you should be calling him crappy at the game. You weren't all that great on CoD4 from what I remember. I guess you could have gotten better, we should play again sometime.
I believe the more appropriate thing to call him is pissy noob who believes everything should revolve around their standards or it's complete crap. I've seen the riot shields in the single player. From what I've seen, using a flash bang and gunning at their feet is a legit way to pwn them. I'm guessing something like this would work on Xbox Live too. | |
They spend so much time on the visual aspect of the games these days that they forget about the most important thing, the story.
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Personally, I'll wait for MAG, rather than CoD9001, thankyou.
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Yammen wrote:
Silk, I don't believe you should be calling him crappy at the game. You weren't all that great on CoD4 from what I remember. I think you might played with me one or two times a year ago back when I first got my Xbox. Anyway, reflex skill level isn't what we're talking about here. TMM is complaining that a perfectly balanced game is broken simply because he can't figure it out. Anyone who "rage quits" a game for this reason, sucks. | |
SilkWizard wrote:
Yammen wrote: The only time I'll leave a game is when the other side is actually modding. I haven't really seen this on the 360, but in the days of Halo 2, modding was rampant on Xbox Live. After awhile after I achieved the rank I wanted, I started modding myself. However, I never did it in match making. Another group of modders and myself modified Halo 2 maps and played them in custom games for everyone to play on with us. | |
Fugsnarf wrote:
They spend so much time on the visual aspect of the games these days that they forget about the most important thing, the story. To be fair, it's only in recent years that story has become a big focus in games. A lot of the newer cinematic games with crap stories are from Japan (MGS, Final Fantasy). Many American game companies have started to hire accredited writers and directors, resulting in masterpieces like Mass Effect. That said, IW definitely dropped the ball with MW2. | |
1. Where I live, the PC version was actually cheaper than the original. And the console versions were £10 more expensive.
Also, the issues I stated are not issues with the PC version. They are issues with all the games. 2. Not sure what version of MW1 you played, but the version I played had more maps and much bigger maps, and the single player mode was at least twice as long. Admittedly, I never bought either of the games, and those extra maps could have been DLC of some sort. 3. If you bought MW1, you have already bought the maps. I don't see why you should have to pay for them again. 4. http://lmgtfy.com/ 5. He made the first "little bitch stab". Ironically, what I said is true. Even more ironic is he has probably never played a single game I have made, but I have played all the games he has made and listed on BYOND. Which I'd say makes me much better qualified to judge them, and I'd say the general quality of them all is very low. As for the bad stuff. Some may only apply to PC. But no dedicated servers. No console commands. No lean. No custom maps. Lower player cap. No mods or modding tools. 65 FOV which is locked. No ability to kick or ban cheaters. There is probably a much longer list out there. I remember seeing a list one time of all the things MW2 was missing that MW1 had, most of them made no sense at all and should have been included in the game. Also, 4vs4 FPS games are pretty boring if you ask me. Try playing the MAG beta. 126vs126 people in strategic war grounds. It is pretty much the best FPS game I have ever played. Also, the Battlefield Bad Company 2 beta is also vastly superior to MW2. If you like FPS games, I'd suggest either of those two when they come out. Both are excellent games so far. | |
The Magic Man wrote:
Admittedly, I never bought either of the games, and those extra maps could have been DLC of some sort. So really, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Which anyone who read this thread already knew. The Magic Man wrote: If you bought MW1, you have already bought the maps. I don't see why you should have to pay for them again. Saying that for the fourth time without qualifying it isn't getting you anywhere. It's like saying that since you bought a car one time, you're entitled to a free upgrade to every new model of that car. It sounds retarded because it is. | |
I said I never bought either game. Which I did not.
I never said I did not play them. I can go and play either of them right now if I want. No point in buying a game which I can just borrow off of my brother any time I want. But that is an entirely different comparison. A more accurate comparison is saying I have 2 cars, and old and new one. If I want to take parts out of my old car, and put them in my new car I should be able to do so as I please. They are my cars. But nope, if I want those parts in my new car, I have to buy them again to do so. I already own the fluffy dice and radio. I should be able to put them into my new car if I want. Not be forced to buy some new fluffy dice and a new radio. | |
The Magic Man wrote:
If I want to take parts out of my old car, and put them in my new car I should be able to do so as I please. They are my cars. The parts don't match. MW2 requires new code, new design quirks, etc. Even if the maps would just magically import themselves over, you STILL don't own them separately from the rest of the game. Just like you don't hold the rights to the music or the graphical assets from games you purchase. Not that you've purchased the game anyway. | |