In response to Cicless
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Any specific examples? It seems to me that if you can't understand the language reference, you're missing something fundamental. Ripped sources (around here, anyway) tend to spread misconceptions and bad programming practices, so what you think you know may be limiting your ability to learn the proper stuff.
I'm always trying to figure out where people go wrong and how best to deal with it, without coming off as offensive or elitist. |
In response to Kaiochao
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They either just read the DM tutorial without actually practicing the basics after reading it and/or aren't being honest about the dedication they are actually putting into learning the language.
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In response to RoxasX-San
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Heh... I practiced it but I mean it kinda lacks examples, especially with the minor stuff IMO, I'm kind of a meticulous person, so don't mind me. XD And yeah, I'm kinda limiting myself cause like I said, I'm still a newbie and can't understand other stuff very well. So I just stick to the stuff I know till I master them then start up with new stuff.
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Programming, I have found, is a lot like BDSM. For most people, it's not really their cup of tea, but those of us who enjoy it regularly are kind of sick fucks.
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F1, Learning what it means to be Object Oriented, and truthfully exploring outside of Byond. Byond is a haven to which you can collect the skills you learn elsewhere, or just talk and share knowledge, yet there will always be someone smarter than you. Never assume you're the best coder, there's individuals that can write 3D code in Byond in a matter of seconds. You know who you are.
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In response to Inuyashaisbest
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Inuyashaisbest wrote:
You know who you are. SHOOTAH 3D PLLLLS |
In response to Rushnut
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Rushnut wrote:
Inuyashaisbest wrote: ter already made one |
The Question is How did you learn programming?
Let's start off with me: I personally started programming in byond from rips which was bad habit (i had an old key but i dont remember the username nor the password) then i decided to re-create my knowledge of programming cause rips are bad habit so i read DM guide and started programming games *never announced any of them* some had mistakes and bug and i learnt from my mistakes and here I am :D |
Simple, Trial and Error.
Way back, I learned off ripped sources, and using the resources from developers site, I eventually just figured out how the code worked from using these things and trial and error OVER and OVER, I never used the BYOND DM Guide it was TL;DR!!! I've forgotten most of everything now though, but I would like to learn again the proper way. |
how i learned?
1.working on a NNG project with my brother ---> 2.Rip projects of my own ---> 3.trail & error on trying to make a original game ---> 4.DM guide & reference ---> 5.getting rid of the bad habits i developed when i learned from rips. ---> 6.experimenting & learning new techniques from people along the way ---> 7.now theory & logic/common sense. The moral of the story is be hazardous when learning from rips it hurts you in the long run sometimes!!, but pixel art & general arts was a god given talent just took me alil practice. |
In response to Solomn Architect
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digitalmouse wrote: Then you might like this excerpt from "Holy Nachos - The Book of Indentations": And it was written that on the 7.5th day of the 7.5th month, the digitalmouse did pray among the stacks of code printouts and self-help programming books. |
I don't know why, but I have a feeling I'm going to end up being the Satan in this book...
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In response to Nadrew
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Nadrew wrote:
I don't know why, but I have a feeling I'm going to end up being the Satan in this book... I don't think it'd be a bad thing, though. I've always considered you a necessary evil during my time on BYOND. Gotta keep those sinners in line somehow. |
its sort of hard to learn but there is a website on how to code in byond http://www.byond.com/docs/guide/
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In response to MASTAFLIPS
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MASTAFLIPS wrote:
its sort of hard to learn but there is a website on how to code in byond http://www.byond.com/docs/guide/ Doesn't seem up to date. |
In response to MASTAFLIPS
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MASTAFLIPS wrote:
well i did not know that so sorry about that You're fine, however I would use the reference in DreamMaker personally. (F1) |
A little over 14 years ago I learned to code by looking at other code bases on BYOND. I started out with HTML though - making sites with front page. After a while it got to where I didn't even need software to make websites. I went from HTML to ASP, and from ASP to PHP. Dabbled in quite a bit of C# and C++ over the years. There's a lot of awesome resources to learn to code all over the internet. I think w3schools was my starting point on C#.
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What's hard to understand from the DM Reference?