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For some reason if you have ever owned a rip on byond you get somewhat shunned

like you get blog comments saying you suck

or you get nayed when your asking for help or an opinion or even just a question

I'm just wondering why ppl feel the need to troll someones page post and games if they ever owned a rip i mean im no masterdan but do people like me need to be bothered by trolls

like if you dont like rips move on else your just giving the ripper attention
Trolls, by nature, should be shot.

And people who own ripped goods should consider investing in some new stuff.
No one likes rips. Let me explain for your mind.

If I had a rip, and the source was open. It'd be natural for someone new to consider it the right thing considering the mass amounts of numbers. Therefore rips shall keep repeating.

Oh, and you suck.
lol well Kersh,Troll, I am not idiotic despite what you may think so uhh yea get a life

and foomer

me personally, I am working on a Original Bleach game and Hitman Reborn

oh and foomer

*Shoots Kershi*

thats for you lol
Ahhh don't worry about them.
Rips are BYOND's goldmine. Take away rips, and you may have about 30-40 games live, and about 40-50 people playing them.

Imagine, if rips never came, then BYOND would not recieve all the membership money from nubs.

So BYOND almost literally thrives off of rips.

Honestly, rip or not, a games a game, deal with it.

The same person who tells you "fux j00 ripper" copies shit from wikipedia for their feature article. So yea, just be glad your form of ripping isn't illegal. =)
I think the fact that developers have to mention that their game is ORIGINAL when making anime games speaks for itself when it comes to rips..
you (and several others commenting) don't appear to grasp what a 'troll' is. there are basically three "levels" of internet attacks:

to be a troll involves being disingenuous, saying things that you don't actually believe for the sake of making your target upset. as such, you yourself aren't upset by the situation at hand, but are simply fishing for angry responses for your own entertainment.

angrily attacking someone for something that you feel only slightly opposed to (with the aid of being egged on by insults or seeing it occur too often) would be considered flaming. you aren't extremely passionate about the issue, but you're stirring up a lot of trouble anyways.

saying things that you truly believe but lack the self-restraint to express calmly would just be plain old vigilante justice with a dash of heedless anger.

bashing rips falls into the latter two categories an overwhelming majority of the time; i can't think of a scenario where someone thinks ripping is ok but bashes it just for fun-- which would be trolling.

now that we've got that cleared up, the reason people are upset about rips:

they show a complete lack of effort on the creator's side. it's simply a cheap grab for power

they're always horribly put together because the person who created the rip has no appropriate knowledge of the language they're working with-- and, in a lot of cases, are simply too young/dumb to understand how to create coherent gameplay.

following up on that point, the abominable nature of rips and their extreme overpopulation smears BYOND with an ugly stain of horrible, immature quality that drives away respectable developers-- and, as a result-- the naive prospect of a good game on BYOND.
Zaole wrote:
you (and several others commenting) don't appear to grasp what a 'troll' is. there are basically three "levels" of internet attacks:

to be a troll involves being disingenuous, saying things that you don't actually believe for the sake of making your target upset. as such, you yourself aren't upset by the situation at hand, but are simply fishing for angry responses for your own entertainment.

angrily attacking someone for something that you feel only slightly opposed to (with the aid of being egged on by insults or seeing it occur too often) would be considered flaming. you aren't extremely passionate about the issue, but you're stirring up a lot of trouble anyways.

saying things that you truly believe but lack the self-restraint to express calmly would just be plain old vigilante justice with a dash of heedless anger.

bashing rips falls into the latter two categories an overwhelming majority of the time; i can't think of a scenario where someone thinks ripping is ok but bashes it just for fun-- which would be trolling.

now that we've got that cleared up, the reason people are upset about rips:

they show a complete lack of effort on the creator's side. it's simply a cheap grab for power

they're always horribly put together because the person who created the rip has no appropriate knowledge of the language they're working with-- and, in a lot of cases, are simply too young/dumb to understand how to create coherent gameplay.

following up on that point, the abominable nature of rips and their extreme overpopulation smears BYOND with an ugly stain of horrible, immature quality that drives away respectable developers-- and, as a result-- the naive prospect of a good game on BYOND.

yea well my definition of a troll is going somewhere(page,game, forum) and talking shit on the person or whatever just to do it

people dont have to be on rips they
just do so to talk about it

anyway thanks for posting i aint do this for mere entertainment i just did it cause i wonder why if people own a rip they basically get stalked on byond
You suck.

Also nay.
IcewarriorX wrote:
You suck.

Also nay.

perfect example of a troll also proving my point about the nay's

im asking a question not worth yays or nays so get lives trolls
Dbar910 wrote:
IcewarriorX wrote:
You suck.

Also nay.

perfect example of a troll also proving my point about the nay's

im asking a question not worth yays or nays so get lives trolls

You're obviously a troll yourself...whether you know it or not.
did you totally ignore the list of reasons why rips are bad?

ripping is an awful thing and it is only hurting BYOND. how could you not expect people to attack you for making rips?
Zaole wrote:
did you totally ignore the list of reasons why rips are bad?

ripping is an awful thing and it is only hurting BYOND. how could you not expect people to attack you for making rips?

im just telling them to get a life if byond has a problem with it then their admins can come bitch about it
Zaole wrote:
did you totally ignore the list of reasons why rips are bad?

ripping is an awful thing and it is only hurting BYOND. how could you not expect people to attack you for making rips?

Because, as I stated, RIPS ARE THE LIFEFORCE OF BYOND. Ripping isn't an awful thing, it's the owner of the ripped source's fault for being ignorant. There is alot of Open Source games, many PS2 games use systems and stuff from other PS2 games. If you're gunna get your balls in a bundle because of some digital game that will never make it anywhere, then you might as well die, cause you honestly have no life.
Ganing wrote:

Because, as I stated, RIPS ARE THE LIFEFORCE OF BYOND. Ripping isn't an awful thing, it's the owner of the ripped source's fault for being ignorant. There is alot of Open Source games, many PS2 games use systems and stuff from other PS2 games. If you're gunna get your balls in a bundle because of some digital game that will never make it anywhere, then you might as well die, cause you honestly have no life.

All of the games with 100+ players are not rips..so yeah, you're wrong. This arguments about as old as BYOND itself though, which is why only idiots/trolls make these threads in the first place.

This guy made a thread bitching about how people bitch too much. Yes. He's an idiot. Also, he should take his own advice. (see subtitle of page)
IcewarriorX wrote:
Ganing wrote:

Because, as I stated, RIPS ARE THE LIFEFORCE OF BYOND. Ripping isn't an awful thing, it's the owner of the ripped source's fault for being ignorant. There is alot of Open Source games, many PS2 games use systems and stuff from other PS2 games. If you're gunna get your balls in a bundle because of some digital game that will never make it anywhere, then you might as well die, cause you honestly have no life.

All of the games with 100+ players are not rips..so yeah, you're wrong. This arguments about as old as BYOND itself though, which is why only idiots/trolls make these threads in the first place.

This guy made a thread bitching about how people bitch too much. Yes. He's an idiot. Also, he should take his own advice. (see subtitle of page)

wow I didn't know I was a idiot, that's new.

anyway i made this post to answer a question not to get some noob/troll to bitch why he thinks i made it
It's because you take someone's work and claim it as your own. Player playing your games need to know there are far better games out there besides rips. Look at your games. All you do is add more and more useless things. Copy and pasting is all you do and you expect to be taken seriously.
Rip Nation wrote:
It's because you take someone's work and claim it as your own. Player playing your games need to know there are far better games out there besides rips. Look at your games. All you do is add more and more useless things. Copy and pasting is all you do and you expect to be taken seriously.

never said anything was mine or original

i actually dont copy and past

and i did take a sorce that byond released and added a bunch of crap to it when i first started byond

but thanks for the input you help me to understand trolls better
Dbar910 wrote:
i actually dont copy and past


Just keep telling yourself that.
Rip Nation wrote:
Dbar910 wrote:
i actually dont copy and past


Just keep telling yourself that.

lol i didn't know you were here when i coded

lol troll
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