I would love for this game to have two bases, two teams. Your team would try to improve the base and defend it from the others from blowing you up. Security to keep things in order and keep the enemy out and engineers keeping the station working, etc, etc. Getting to the other base would require cooperation, especially from the engineers to build a shuttle. It would certainly make the griefers happy and the role players happy. Right now, every server is packed full of admins that have absolutely no life but to ban people for idiotic reasons while letting real griefers roam around.
I mean seriously, just try to have a little bit of fun on some of these servers and you will get banned. I got banned for locking myself in a room and igniting plasma to cook myself during the last minute when the shuttle was leaving. The admin asked me why, then two seconds later he says too late and bans me, didn't even get a chance to type.
Jugo69 wrote:
ok , well walking up to a guy and killing him aint cool if you just did it for no reason and you arent roleplaying. but i am pissed at the situation that the admins are always breathing down the neck of people instead of letting the game run while moderating some things. this applies to griefing in that you kill someone(lets say you have a reason), and then get a admin pm saying why did you do that??!! you answer them and get a response like(your a retard bla bla bla) and get banned for a ridiculous time. but killing is a part of the game if its done right. Wrong. Every server has it's own rules, it's own play style and it's own goal. | |
Squizzle wrote:
SS13 is a role playing that is right. "Tell me why it is a problem to roleplay as a murderer." Sounds very fair to me. :3 How the flying fish freckles does a murderer get on board a five million jillion USD space station!? One which your character would have to pass tons of tests and stuff to prove that, oh, they're NOT some crazy-ass murderer!? | |
I do have one thing to say about this topic, I personally have been, apperently, been blessed with the fortune of not running into crappy Admins, so I can't give an example of a pointless ban but I can say one thing though, Greifing is good in moderation, when called for IE when you are syndicate and can't get into the station out of someone's POV, so you instinctively bust down a wall, that is moderated greifing. However if you just play to game to get in the middle of the station to blow up the captian with a bomb from science (And you aren't traitor), mean you are just being a jerk and should not play the gaPr
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Honestly, I KIND OF agree. You can't even cyber or anything because ''kids play this game''. Are you fucking kidding me? People swear all the time such as me, you beat people to death with saws, and then they say ''nuuu dont have natural sox, kids pleh this gem, u can saw people thouugh, bloood everwyerhe sifs fun!''
Not saying that I cyber but come on, SS13 isn't aimed towards kids. And also, getting banned for self defense killing when someone is about to murder you is also retarded. | |
Justin4478 wrote:
I do have one thing to say about this topic, I personally have been, apperently, been blessed with the fortune of not running into crappy Admins, so I can't give an example of a pointless ban but I can say one thing though, Greifing is good in moderation, when called for IE when you are syndicate and can't get into the station out of someone's POV, so you instinctively bust down a wall, that is moderated greifing. However if you just play to game to get in the middle of the station to blow up the captian with a bomb from science (And you aren't traitor), mean you are just being a jerk and should not play the gaPr Also it's griefing, not greifing, why are retards not bothering to spell it right. | |
To me griefing is pointlessly trying to bother other people, trying to ruin their round of play. I do not have an issue where a player plays a murdered, or roleplays a character with such a short temper that even a slight argument can lead to him killing. But this should be thought out before, and not suddenly decided on in the round, and players need to keep themselves in check to stay in character...
I do mind a server where I log on, walk down the hall and get tazed by a random guy then dragged out an airlock, and have to spend the next 45 minutes ghosting... You say griefing is fun for all? It certainly wasn't for me then... (I checked, he wasn't an antag, and it wasn't even an antag round... and he didn't seem to have much point in his actions than to hunt down anyone alive and kill them). I do agree that some admins on some servers over administer, limiting even what kind of character you can roleplay, but it's their server and they can lay down the rules. Rules that are too restrictive will lead to empty servers, which will then in turn kill the server and fix the problem. There's a fine line between intentionally trying to ruin another players game experience, which I do not support, and roleplaying a character (even a murdered) who will make the round better and more fun to play. I would be very happy to even be murdered (in-game) if it enriches the round, rather than detracts from it. Did he kill me because the player was an asshole, or did the argument our characters had simply lead to him killing me? Then it might be fun to watch him try to hide the evidence and maybe be forced to kill others who were getting too close to learning the truth. And it would certainly be fun to see his reaction when I'm cloned and walk back into the bar and strike up a conversation with him again... But such a character needs to be a rare event, rather than common place, because otherwise you lead to free-for-all rounds where no character can really expand and non-griefers can't enjoy themselves too... | |
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Situation is pretty complicated here,because when youre syndicate you can theoretically grief,but,well,if i would be admin i would suggest banning constant griefers from whole byond,destroying game is not fun at all,this is RolePlay,search for deathmatch if you wanna piece of shit like grief..
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OP: I GOT BANNED FOR BEING AN IDIOT WAAAAAAAAAAH
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Robstailey wrote:
Alright, let me end this shit for yall. ^ THIS. READ IT. Also the thing is that it is a ROLE-PLAYING game. However I would suggest making a "creative" SS13 server. Now anyway, go fuck yourself and play COD. | |
Ugh, why are you all arguing about a dumb 2d spaceman game? Just follow the rules of the servers and choose to play or not play on said servers.
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because Lazors
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Flamadon wrote:
Robstailey wrote: I concur with this statement | |
SuperToby12 wrote:
Honestly, I KIND OF agree. You can't even cyber or anything because ''kids play this game''. Are you fucking kidding me? People swear all the time such as me, you beat people to death with saws, and then they say ''nuuu dont have natural sox, kids pleh this gem, u can saw people thouugh, bloood everwyerhe sifs fun!'' You love yourself don't you? | |
Capt matt4 wrote:
SuperToby12 wrote: He sure does! | |
Sariiras wrote:
Capt matt4 wrote: AYE SIR! | |
Capt matt4 wrote:
Sariiras wrote: wtf | |
Griefing in moderation is an excellent thing so long as it is creative and adds to the experience of others in an interesting way. Killing random people with a crowbar is pointless and just pisses people off, but deciding to mess with someone in subtle ways can be a heck of a lot of fun.
I often play an engineer and once I get the singularity up, stoke the furnaces and ensure the solar panels are online I'll await or request orders from the CE. More often than not the CE ignores me, is a traitor or isn't even present in the round. I'll take my requests for orders up the chain of command and if I don't receive any I become the "vengeful engineer" character. Strange things will begin happening. The captain will wonder why the doors to his quarters are suddenly ajar, for example. A valuable item might go missing from a secured location. The little things can mess with people and launch investigations, paranoia and even manhunts. When I'm standing around in Engineering listening to everyone get eaten by a changeling for the tenth time in a row I decide to make my own fun. | |
I remember one game where i played and called myself Unknown. and decided id be a serial killer, so i went about planning how to kill people and tricking them into thinking i was good and then murdering them( ended up killing 6 people) and it created a nice roleplay enviroment where no one knew who the killer was and bodies kept appearing, so i think you cant completely ban killing. i was banned from a server because while apprehending a psycho he died of his injuries, even though i was going to clone him and put him in jail nop, i got banned.