If you're going to make a fangame...

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Dec 30 2005, 5:03 pm
...MAKE IT RIGHT!

I was playing ADT_Clone's new Harry Potter garbage, and it's nothing but an empty world filled with macroable click fights and poor references... it's a piece of junk.
Then I go around BYOND and find that he's not the only one that's decided to take a giant turd on Harry Potter, it seems it's a popular thing to do! WHAT THE CRAP!?
This is just as bad as those assholes who wish to take Looney Toons and convert it into an action anime.



Stop ruining good things douchebags!

Here's the bottom line; if you're going to make a fangame make it right, do the research and make sure you even have an idea of how to present the media you wish to invade upon, or it'll look just like this pile of trash.
At least make sure you have an idea of how you wish to make a general game too, not something with a giant waste of space map and no aspects of gameplay.
If the game isn't fun to you, it's not going to be fun to anybody else, so before you "beta test" do a personal test as far as you can and make sure you like it yourself, or it'll bomb.

I'm not against fangames, but alot of this garbage is just lazy, if you don't feel like going through the processes of making a game, don't even try. There's no marvel in being GM in a game that sucks ass.

Dec 30 2005, 5:48 pm
amen no one could have said it better
Dec 30 2005, 6:07 pm
Meh, TNN, you went about it in the wrong Manner, this is bound to start a arguement, don't attack ADT's Harry_Potter game in general, just say "I've played a few Harry Potter games recently, and i didn't like them", if that's not the case, ADT is going to be on your case. That's why i don't like FanGames, but the Ultimate FanGame maker is SSGX, because DBTC was completeley original and based off the series, it's almost everything a DBZ fan could ask for, why?


IT STAYED TRUE TO THE SERIES!

Most DBZ games out there, pretty much spit the DBZ series itself, by putting things like SSJ59, and other irrelevant bullcrap like that in their games. I mean Sagas aren't Sagas, you just end it with one blast, and get EXP, that's not a real boss battle.


Harry Potter, is not meant to be a good game, period. Nobody can compentley code a Harry Potter game on BYOND, or elsewhere, it's just plain impossible. If you're willing to make a Harry Potter game or any fan game(I will use Harry Potter as an Example), do this:

1.) Actually watch all the Episodes/Movies and read all the books.

2.) Actually write down all or most of the main character's names down, and implement them into the game itself.

3.) Write down all of the Attacks, Spells, Blasts, etc and implement them into the game, which will give the player a Variety of moves to choose from the series.


Those are some thing that can help you out when making a fangame.

Dec 30 2005, 6:24 pm
Well at leats Lola looks hawt.

:fap: :fap:

Duck Dodgers was an awesome cartoon series though, wonder why they cut it.
Dec 30 2005, 7:08 pm
Preach, Reverend Ninja, Preach.
Halleujah.
Amen.
Dec 31 2005, 7:30 am
The art for that used to look a lot worse, actually.
Dec 31 2005, 9:27 am
Heh, that Looney Toons thing doesnt look half bad :\
Dec 31 2005, 9:31 am
Just for the mark, I targeted ADT's game because it has to be the worst thing I've ever attempted to play. That was what sparked my rant.

The looney toons anime crap looks awesome, but it's retarded... It's like if Michealangelo carved a beautiful statue out of his feces... sure it looks good, but deep down it's still just a pile of shit.
Jan 2 2006, 6:32 pm
I would like to point out to you, The Naked Ninja, that this will be the best Harry Potter game on byond, if it not already is. Currently I do not wish for this to be focused on Harry Potter, but more on Role Playing in the wizardry world. And for poorly coded, see if you can find 3 bugs. There is only really 2 bugs that I know of, and I dont really think you can call them bugs, all they do is make the player click a button twice, whoo big whoop, boy thats going to hurt them. I think you should think twice before flamming a game.
Jan 2 2006, 6:36 pm
ADT_Clone, I havn't said it was poorly coded, I stated it was a shitty game. It has no gameplay value, it's just a game where you can macro clicking on someone, that takes place in such a horribly thrown together map, full of all this open space.

It may be the best on BYOND, but it's still a pile of crap. Maybe it'll be something someday, but right now it's garbage.

Notice I didn't mock any levels of programming, I merely stated that if you're going to make a fangame, make it right... and this is the furthest thing from a correctly made fangame, especially if you claim that it's not focused on "Harry Potter"... Then don't make a fucking "Harry Potter" game.
Jan 2 2006, 6:48 pm
Own't.
Jan 2 2006, 7:40 pm
Gah. Turning Looney Tunes into anime is like painting over all of Michelangelo's work with... well, anime. Since when has it become acceptable to take the greatest cartoons of all time and reenvision them as craptacular garbage?
[edit: Heh, I just read your Michelangelo comment. Looks like we were thinking along the same lines.]

I've got to agree that ADT_CLONE is off the deep end too, though. How can one make a fan game if they don't even understand the material? His original post misspelled Voldemort (good gads) and said the game would take place "in the time of Harry Potter". Uh, so does Vice City.

A good game based around the magical world of Harry Potter would be cool to see, but nobody has a prayer of making one who isn't familiar with that world in the first place. It's like asking Martha Stewart to cut a rap album. Stick to what you freaking know.
Jan 2 2006, 7:41 pm
McArthur, please shut up. Now Mr Ninja, does it have to be a Fan Game if I name it Harry Potter? Does it have to be totally to do with Harry Potter? This game is more of a RPing game then a Harry Potter game at this point. If I wanted to I would change the name to Wizards and Witches, though since it is going to be full on Harry Potter I named it that. Also I have only been programming byond for half a month, and you have been on for god knows how long, so keep your naked mouth shut and stop flamming people.

ADT_CLONE
Jan 2 2006, 7:43 pm
ADT, this was a bit of an ambitious project to attempt with only 2 weeks experience, but even so, you know nothing about Harry Potter in the first place, let alone how to create an immersive world based around it. And mapping skills have zilch to do with programming prowess, but the map is lame as well. Clearly you went ahead with the whole thing well before you should have even peeped about a release.
Jan 2 2006, 7:44 pm
Magic Enterprise. How long you've been here has nothing to do with anything, and if so I've been here since 1999 (Look up people:aries, neohaxor, sonvegitto)

If you're naming it harry potter, and it has anything to do with harry potter, it's a harry potter fan game. If not, then it'd be like naming a DBZ game "Deer Hunter 3".
Jan 2 2006, 7:50 pm
Well, mabey it would help this game if my bloody no good ripper of an iconer(Pimpy) would have actually helped me and not left me trying to code, icon and map this game for a whole week. And it gets worse, Jays iconer comes in and starts saying we ripped there icons which I didnt know. So there goes a whole day of trying to make it more like harry potter, wasted trying to replace the icons. As you see I am more worried with the actual game play, trying to get rid of all the bugs is my first priority, so if you dont like the way I create my own games, you will have to live with it.

ADT_CLONE
Jan 2 2006, 7:52 pm
dude Ragnarok already told you Pimpy a.k.a Seeker1 was bad news and you said hell with it and still let him icon
Jan 2 2006, 7:52 pm
Dude, why'd you rush into release if it wasn't ready? If you don't have a map worth crap, don't have anything even half-finished, why'd you put it up as anything other than a quick test?
Jan 2 2006, 7:52 pm
Er... it's kind of a given that any open-ended multiplayer world isn't going to be focused on Harry Potter, just the world of Harry Potter. Can you picture what it would be like if there was a game focused on Harry Potter?

Harry Potter: Hello! My name's Harry Potter!
Harry Potter 2: Oh, what a coincidence! I'm Harry Potter too!
Harry Potter: Hello, Harry! What did you want to do today?
Harry Potter 3: How about you DIE, Harry? AVADA KEDAVRA!
Harry Potter: Oh no! That Harry Potter's a PK'er!

That said, I agree with your premise of "do it right or don't do it at all." I'd simply like to submit the addendum that "doing it right" is generally a task that is, at best, on the very border of being possible.
Jan 2 2006, 7:54 pm
Well, for your information McArthur, Ragnarok forgot to tell me about Pimpy. I released it because I thought it was ready. Also I am continuously putting it up to find any possible bugs.

ADT_CLONE
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