There's been wars over less, Crispy. =p
Hey guys, stfu and use a messenger.
Evi of au is a good friend of mine. I even taught him a trick or two when he first started with DM. He doesn't lack an imagination, but, in my opinion, he makes bad moderator choices.

Ben G I don't really know. I've had one small controled argument with him. And in that I learned only he was a very wise person. It seems that he makes good Administrator choices, but he himself has no tollerance for the stupid.

Both have their good and bad qualities. I can't say I know either of them well enough to judge them.

Chat - I once moderated this game until I, for personal reasons, quit playing the game all together. It was simple and what I thought was fun. Until it became popular. Now, the place has become so uninviting, that it caused one of the creators good friends to quit it. And I can assure you, I didn't look back when I did.

Converse - Has an unfriendly feeling to it aswell, but, it is more inviting then Chat is (now). Has lots of features and is generally what most people would be looking for in a chat program. The only down side, is the reputation of it's creator. Which I think is pretty unfair on that scale. Because, most people don't seem to be able to detect sarcasm or see the humor in some of his actions.

All in all, that BBASH post is a load of complete bullshit, and that kind of conversaton should never have left Chats logfile. It's one of those things, that it's just completely wrong to show to the world, because the respect for the people involved diminishes, even if but a little. If you're going to slander someone behind their back, thats fine. But if you're going to slander them behind their back, THEN post it to the world, you need to be dropped off a cliff.

Kuro Ninja and Vans, the thing about Converse that is different than Chat is a multiple channel system. Basically, even I, the creator, don't have control over the entire program. People can make their own channels and moderate them as they choose. My channel that I personally moderate is The Pub. It's the right of Radioactive Monkey to ban you for whatever reason he chooses. That speaks of him - not Converse, and certainly not me.
Divine Apprentice - this is not a public forum, this is my blog. I'm discussing something that upsets me. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's all the same to me.
<3 internet drama

For real though, what is all this talk about Chat wars? Just becuase converse has a little competition, doesn't mean you have to choose, one or the other. >.> I am still wondering how my server crashed. I really think crashing a "rival" server is pretty low.
Evi of au wrote:

For real though, what is all this talk about Chat wars?

Your patrons started it, not mine.

I am still wondering how my server crashed. I really think crashing a "rival" server is pretty low.

Me too. Good thing I didn't do it.
I really think crashing a "rival" server is pretty low.

I feel the need to clarify my stance a bit more here. I don't feel Chat is a rival. Chat is a pretty program that in no way rivals Converse's features, or the amount of time I put in to it. It's pretty. I'll give you that, but in no way is it a rival.
Guys stop the hate, make love not war :P
Every single person in the first quote (except, perhaps, Vortezz) is someone I've told that I dislike them and explained why.

not me, yet. :)
Ah, very well, but as Evi of au is the owner of the only channel, he should take accountability for it. You see, if I ban someone from The Pub, regardless of the reason, they're still welcome in Converse - just not my personal channel. When Evi or one of his goons bans someone, they're removed from the program? How fair is that?

Right. After you just told me it's not your responsibility for what the players of your game do, you're not their babysitter.
in chatters/wiz_chat/converse, people wouldn't like the people in the main channel, so they made a new channel and their three troll friends followed. making your own chat program is just a small step up from making your own channel.

i don't know why people went to chat, i'm guessing its because they don't like ben. but, if they really wanted to stick it to ben, they should juse use converse and make their own channel. the whole point of having channels is that anyone can make one, so if you don't like the existing channels you can make your own. making an "anti-ben" channel in his own program would be better than having an "anti-ben" channel in your own chat program. kinda like how protesters think they're really sticking it to the government when government policy allows protest.

i find it interesting how chatters started going downhill, then went offline. wiz_chat picked up the ball and continued running downhill. then there was converse, which got the ball and took one step forward and two steps back. now, there's chat which is a gaint leap backwards. i expect the next chat program will have pbags, and the next chat after that will have broken pbags.
Vortezz is a moderator.

Against my own will, yes, heh. You never would remove me =\

No, but nice try. Anyone who wants to see the full administrative log for The Pub is welcome to it - EzrahChan was banned for a few minutes for using the letter e, as a joke. He is still banned now, though, for trolling.

Right. I never saw the trolling, sorry.

Anyhoo, you know I respect you n' all that bojazz.
BTW, why was I banned from posting there? It doesn't make any sense for someone who posts a quote (that I started off myself mind yah) that is inoffensive in every way shape and form, as well as the quotes being deleted?
Tiberath wrote,
All in all, that BBASH post is a load of complete bullshit, and that kind of conversaton should never have left Chats logfile. It's one of those things, that it's just completely wrong to show to the world, because the respect for the people involved diminishes, even if but a little. If you're going to slander someone behind their back, thats fine. But if you're going to slander them behind their back, THEN post it to the world, you need to be dropped off a cliff.

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Actually Tiberath. I belive that would be considered Libel because it is in print and not spoken word.

(Finally Something that I said sounded smarter than Tiberath)
I AGREE!
'...the digitalmouse: I agree.'

yup- it is faked - i don't capitalize generally.

bah- all chat programs on BYOND have their good and bad points. of course once Nexus hits the public eye properly, you will ALL BOW DOWN TO THE GREAT ALATHON SKILLZ BOYO! and no pbags! (just kidding- pbags will be optional).

actually, i think Ben's chat program is just as good as anyone elses. it's certain collections of users who are the dickheads.
actually, i think Ben's chat program is just as good as anyone elses. it's certain collections of users who are the dickheads.

We do try.
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