I firmly believe in open discussion, even from points I do not agree with. This is from Rockinawesome's Forwarded Email actually worth the reading
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If you're like me you probably don't read 95% of the forwards sent to your inbox. But fortunately for me, I happened to stumble across this one. If ever the whole of the conservative argument could be summed up effectively, this is probably as close as it gets. Warning, the below is pro-conservative, so if it will make you angry--DON'T READ IT! You have been warned.
Dear American Liberals, Leftists, Social Progressives, Socialists,
Marxists, Obama Supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this
latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I
know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future
generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two
ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is
right, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile, slate it
up to irreconcilable differences, and go our own ways.
Here is a model dissolution agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each
taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our
two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that it should be
relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly
divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate
tastes. We don't like redistributed taxes so you can keep them. You
are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.
Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the
NRA, and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie
O'Donnell (you are however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel
vehicle big enough to move them).
We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical
companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved
homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot
Alaskan Hockey Moms, greedy CEO's, and Rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles
and give you NBC and Hollywood.
You can make nice with Iran, Palestine, and France, and we'll retain
the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have
the peaceniks and war protestors. When our allies or way of life are
under assault, we'll provide them job security.
We'll keep our Judeo-Christian Values. You are welcome to Islam,
Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClain. You can have the U.N. but
we will no longer be paying the bill. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup
trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru Station
Wagon you can find.
You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any practicing
Doctors (that is practicing, Howard Dean) who will follow to your turf
(sic). We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a
right.
We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and The National Anthem.
I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach The
World To Sing, Kum Ba Ya, or We Are the World.
We'll practice trickle down economics, and you can give trickle up
poverty its best shot.
Since it often so offends you we'll keep our History, our Name, and
our Flag.
Would you agree to this? In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet
you ANWAR on who will need whose help in 15 years.
Sincerely,
John J. Wall, Law Student, American
P. S. Please take Barbra Streisand.
P.P.S. We will keep all oil rigs offshore, all oil refineries, all
big oil companies and exploration teams. You can keep your windmills
and solar panels.
You can make nice with Iran, Palestine, and France, and we'll retainthe right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protestors. When our allies or way of life are under assault, we'll provide them job security. Oh right. There certainly weren't any wars in Serbia or Germany that democrats had anything to do with. We'll keep the SUV's, pickuptrucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru Station Wagon you can find. P.P.S. We will keep all oil rigs offshore, all oil refineries, allbig oil companies and exploration teams. You can keep your windmills and solar panels. Go ahead. Maybe then we can all get remarried in about 50 years when all of that oil is gone. Or wait--you'll probably be dead by then. After all, we have all the medical researchers. :) | |
"Alaskan Hockey Moms"
I stopped reading there, due to sheer stupidity. The Northeast, and more so the Midwest are known for hockey. I hate idiots that pander behind garbage like "so and so is a hockey mom, so they're blue collar!". Hockey is NOT a blue collar sport. It's too expensive. I wish rednecks knew the costs of playing hockey; it's just not a sport people with a "blue collar" salary can play. The idiot that wrote this needs some act of sodomy committed to him. If hockey's so damn blue collar, why is it near-impossible to find in the South, which is just filled to the brim with blue-collar types? Why is there no NCAA hockey south of the Mason-Dixon? I'm still waiting for someone to get back to me on that point. | |
"You can make nice with Iran, Palestine, and France"
Iran doesn't have any ICBMs, and no way of getting troops to the US. Palestine can't do any real damage to Israel, much less the US. France? Seriously? | |
Disturbed Puppy wrote:
"Alaskan Hockey Moms" You fool. Alaskan Hockey Mom was referring to Sarah Palin | |
I saw one of these that was much funnier, but I can't seem to find it.
Either way, both are ridiculous, it's pretty funny to see how people cling to some of the stupidest things. Yes, keep your oil! Raaaaagh! | |
Vexonater wrote:
You fool. Alaskan Hockey Mom was referring to Sarah Palin I know who they're talking about. My point was that it isn't blue collar. That, and hockey isn't nearly as popular in Alaska as people want to believe. | |
Do you people not know about the "return" key?
Quit putting your replies right on the same line as the comment you're replying too. Also, using italics doesn't help. I still can't see what the hell you're trying to say. | |
Airjoe wrote:
Do you people not know about the "return" key? Why don't you reply to this, and use THIS line in it, then see how much of a fool you are. | |
Airjoe wrote:
Do you people not know about the "return" key? You're seeing this too? Hit reply. The line breaks are there, they're just not displaying. I assumed it was a Firefox 3 problem. | |
It's a bug on the site. There's nothing we can do until then, as even the
tag is filtered. | |
DarkView wrote:
Airjoe wrote: Hmm, I do see now. That's really interesting (and annoying!). I wonder if it's something with the BYOND parser, not turning newlines into s? | |
Hahah, most of the country that right-wing americans are supposed to be so damn PATRIOTIC towards is a country founded on democracy, due process, freedom and civil rights. This is an America that voted overwhelmingly for Barack Obama, the largest landslide victory in history.
Keep your Sarah Palin, keep your failed policies, keep your hate mongering and your misinformation. Keep hating books and believe the invisible hand will teach your kids where Canada is on the map, even though your public schools are failing and the fallout has cost your nation more than a decently funded education system would have. Keep your outdated nonrenewable sources of fuel, while the rest of the modern world have developed cleaner domestic renewable alternatives. Keep your disdain for democracy, your belief that your government shouldnt have to be transparent, your corrupt politicians and your horrible grotesque wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and continue to do nothing about the sick injustices in Palestine while funding Israel for reasons of a warped war on the Muslim religion. While your at it, keep your uneducated economically infeasible lazy collapsing world that you for some reason cling to, and the rest of the America can live in a Country recovering from blatantly failed policies that some people still believe through ignorance were the best choice the commander in chef could have made. The ignorant ways of the Bush presidency is over, a new age has come of international respect and collaboration, diplomacy and tact. An enlightenment that will reduce wasted lives and help the economy recover. God I hate republican zealots. | |
By definition, Obama's win wasn't even a landslide, Masterdan (he was 5 electoral votes short), nevermind the largest in history (Reagan vs Mondale anyone?). Please research before going on a rant.
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They also only varied on about 7% in the popular vote, too.
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http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/ 1725223-obama-sets-record-for-most-votes-ever-received-by-us -presidential-candidate-in-a-single-election
As far as the deeply divided United States goes, it was the largest landslide ever. Sucks that the US has so much loyalty to parties instead of what the country needs, but ironically republican americans arent actually patriotic, but actually loyal to their political party not the country as a whole. See Rush Limbaugh http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/ detail?blogid=14&entry_id=34773. | |
Most votes ever does not equal largest landslide victory ever. Landslide is the -difference in votes-. If Obama had 100million votes and McCain had 99,999,999, well guess what, that's no landslide.
Perhaps you should do as I suggested, and research. | |
Was the 1984 Election really the biggest? I thought it was FDR's victory in 1936 was the largest. Well either way they're pretty close to each other.
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You are correct Maggeh, I just recall that 1984 one from my textbook which showed red/blue maps from the past eight elections or so. Damn that was a lot of red.
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Take your polluting trucks and SUVs, your eventual smog and lung-blackening sickness that'll spew forth like the plague. Take your cun'ry and hillbilly music, your plucky banjos and obnoxiously-tuned guitar. We'll take the artists with talent, the violinists, cellists, pianists, guitarists, drummers, bassists, and vocalists that feel the need for a world that works.
Take your hate crimes, your lynchings, your racism. Take them, and never give them back. The free-speaking world, which you will eventually leave when Bill O'Reilly and other right-wing pundits get their wet dream, is better off without them.
And keep those nukes and guns. Within two generations, there'll be no one left educated enough to use and maintain them.
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