So, basically I wanted to hire an "artist" to make a few pictures. Two of them small (64x64 and 250x60), one medium sized (800x600).
So I get approached by the first artist. "It'll cost you $500 please". Yeah right I say!
So I get approached by a second guy, he seems reasonable, and has the sort of style I am looking for. A few days later he shows me a rough sketch of what he has produced so far, and it looks good.. But then the price suddenly pops up "$500 is actually a reasonable price to hire an 'artist', but I will make you a deal for $250". Yeah right sonny boy, on your bike!
$250-$500 for 3 small pictures basically... WHAAATT? Don't these "artists" have a real job? I can go out and get a website made for me for $50, and hire a composer for like $10-20 per song. But drawing 3 pictures...!!! $250 please!!!
Screw that man. I am not hiring an artist, and I NEVER WILL, ever again, EVER. I'd sooner draw any pictures I need for myself. Hell, I could buy all the software AND hardware I need to make it look fancy for less than an "artist" would charge me for a picture.
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 Nov 10 2008, 8:07 am
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You pay for quality work. At least I hope these guys do quality work. But there's also other considerations like what it's for, what they need to do, distribution, artist demand, etc. $500 seems like pro price. $250's more reasonable. Better find a decent amateur who understands thrifty BYOND'ers.
Who were the artists? | |
Not everyone can do art. Anyone can learn programming and what not. Also depends on the quality of art you're looking for. People actually pay $1000+ for a 1000x1000 digital painting.
I've never taken commissions, but if you're asking for something simple, from what I know, under $100 will do for most artists. | |
Post an ad on deviantart.com and you can get that same stuff made for way way cheaper. Probably better quality too.
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CodingSkillz2 wrote:
Anyone can learn programming and what not. ...no. Most people can do something that's of some quality of art, just like most people can do something that is some quality of programming. But most people would be absolutely baffled by a lot of more complex programming aspects. For example, a ton of people are confused to hell with bitwise math, and that's relatively easy. | |
IcewarriorX wrote:
Post an ad on deviantart.com and you can get that same stuff made for way way cheaper. Probably better quality too. Possibly even free, if you find someone with way too much time on their hands. | |
Jeff8500 wrote:
IcewarriorX wrote: If your lucky... very lucky. | |
$500 is way too expenive for what he was asking. How much time were those people expecting to spend on those images?
I have only ever charged once for artwork, it was a static web template that took around 4-5 hours to complete. I recieved £55 (£27.5 roughly) for that, which meets the national minimum wage. I was more than happy with that, seeing as I would otherwise have just watched a couple of movies in that time. | |
I actually approached one of my friends, some of you might know the pixel artist Indigo. I asked him how much he would charge for a 8 direction run cycle for a 32x32 base. He said since it was small, only 25$ an hour, and it would take him 16 hours to complete.
that was about 70 frames, 13 mins a frame. and about 5.70$ a 32x32 frame. Yea... pricy. After he told me this, all past guilt i've had for trying to sell bases for 80 bucks completely disapeared. But thats Pixel art. For digital art, the prices should be cheaper, but still, a glimpse of the prices are kinda eye opening. | |
Indigo is awesome :P Just looking threw the classified ad's on there gives you a general idea of prices. Some artists charge by the hour, some charge for the completed object, still a pricy business :P
I wouldnt say digital art should be cheaper though... | |
Kataharo Tayoko wrote:
I actually approached one of my friends, some of you might know the pixel artist Indigo. I asked him how much he would charge for a 8 direction run cycle for a 32x32 base. He said since it was small, only 25$ an hour, and it would take him 16 hours to complete. Total rip off. I know someone who works as a professional artist on GBA and DS games. Even she doesn't get paid $25 an hour. Also 16 hours for a small sprite with a very simple animation? I'm not great artist, but I could do that in 1-2 hours max. Like I said, these "artists" are more like SCAM ARTISTS. | |
They make something you can't. And no one else can exactly like them. Whatever price they put on their art is what they feel it deserves. Personally if I did something that I loved, damn right I'd put up a price I think is fair for me to let go of it.
Some people even pay for Sketches. If you don't like it, simply don't buy it. But calling them scammers isn't really right. If I told you to program a whole game for me, very advanced features also involving some MySQL and PHP work via sockets. A WHOLE game working. $15. I mean, it's only text. How's that sound?I'm sure most people wouldn't bother. Whatever the programmer feels is right, is right. Same with the artist. 800x600 would prolly be worth 60 or so - and this is at 72 resolution(web only). Anything higher would be more. | |
One word explains all of this;
Indeed... | |
CodingSkillz2 wrote:
They make something you can't. And no one else can exactly like them. Whatever price they put on their art is what they feel it deserves. Personally if I did something that I loved, damn right I'd put up a price I think is fair for me to let go of it. Trying to compare one image from a game to the entire code of a game is kind of... Not a fair comparison you know. A more fair comparison would be to compare all artwork from a game to all coding from a game. Or one system from a game to one piece of art from a game. But even then, if someone asked me to make a system for their game and offer to pay me, there is no way I would try and charge them $250 or even $500 for it. But the whole point it, what makes these artists feel like their picture is suddenly worth hundreds of dollars? As I said, I can get a fully functional website designed for me for a fraction of that price, or I could go to a professional company and pay about the same price to get them to design me a website. I can also get someone to compose me a song for less than 10% of the cost these artists think their art is worth. And it is not unfair to compare a song to a picture (they could both be classed as art, require skill, tools and potentially expensive software). For the price of one of these artists pictures I could get someone to compose all music for my game. For some reason, my opinion of artists had dropped quiet a lot over the past 2-3 days! | |
WHAAATT? Don't these "artists" have a real job? Art -is- their/our Job. A skilled profession is always pricy, and on top of wich, freelancers have to charge up the hours to support themselves. And thats relative, because artist get paid shit compared to other careers. Looking at how large 800x600 really is, and i would say 250 dollars would be a really reasonable ametur price. If you want a lower price, you'd have to go with a good friend who would do you the favor. Like me.... *whistels* | |
Kataharo Tayoko wrote:
WHAAATT? Don't these "artists" have a real job? Rubbish. I just had a look, I can hire a PROFESSIONAL artist who does this sort of thing for a living and has a lot of experience doing so, their work commonly used in magazines, businesses and on TV for $100 an image. For $250 for an 800x600 image I could apparently hire someone with like 20+ years of experience. | |
The Magic Man wrote:
Rubbish. I just had a look, I can hire a PROFESSIONAL artist who does this sort of thing for a living and has a lot of experience doing so, their work commonly used in magazines, businesses and on TV for $100 an image. Then do it. | |
Chris-g1 wrote:
The Magic Man wrote: You don't understand what he's saying. He's saying that freelance workers should be cheaper than professional artists, and that if he did have 250$ to waste, he would have a professional artist do it, not some 20 year old working out of their apartment. | |
He's saying that freelance workers should be cheaper than professional artists, wahh? lol... | |
If not, the question is do
n't "you" have a job?these artists have valuable time?Though the description of the task seems ambiguous I'm sure those prices correlated with the artistry involved.