Alright, here's the second contest... the contest will be judged on:
1) Accuracy of answer
2) Explanation of answer
3) Speed of answer
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Two men were playing No-Limit Texas Hold'em against each other. And the following conversation took place (if you are unfamiliar with the terminology of Hold'em, leave a comment for me and I'll explain further):
(The dealer deals out the hand, the first man is ready to act)
1st man: I'm all-in.
2nd man: I call.
(The men turn over their hands)
1st man: Ah, I see that I am ahead.
2nd man: Indeed you are.
(The dealer then deals the flop)
1st man: Ah, I see that I am still ahead.
2nd man: Indeed you are.
(The dealer then deals the turn card)
1st man: Hmm, I am still ahead.
2nd man: True, but now I cannot lose this hand.
There are four cards on the board, what are they?
What cards did the men have?
There are multiple correct answers to this problem. I will give out the prize next Monday, October 10.
ID:4388
 Oct 6 2005, 6:55 am
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Oct 6 2005, 7:23 am
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Ben G
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Perhaps the first man has more money than the second, but the second has a better hand?
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Allow me to explain Texas Hold 'em, since I haven't figured the question out yet...
A Texas Hold em poker game goes as follows: 1. The betting structure can vary. Sometimes antes are used, but most games start with two players to the left of the dealer placing out a predetermined amount of money so there is an initial amount to get things started. This is called posting the blinds. 2. The dealer shuffles up a complete deck of 52 playing cards. 3. Each player is dealt two cards face down. These are called your hole or pocket cards. 4. Then there is a round of betting starting with the guy to the left of the two who posted the blinds. This round is usually referred to by the term pre-flop. 5. The amount a player can bet depends on what kind of game it is. 6. Much like most games of poker, players can check, raise, or fold. 7. After the betting round ends, the dealer discards the top card of the deck. This is called a burn card. This is done to prevent cheating. 8. The dealer then flips the next three cards face up on the table. These cards are called the flop. These are communal cards that anyone can use in combination with their two pocket cards to form a poker hand. 9. There is another round of betting starting with the player to the left of the dealer. 10. After the betting concludes, the dealer burns another card and flips one more onto the table. This is called the turn card. Players can use this sixth card now to form a five card poker hand. 11. The player to the left of the dealer begins another round of betting. In many types of games, this is where the bet size doubles. 12. Finally, the dealer burns a card and places a final card face up on the table. This is called the river. Players can now use any of the five cards on the table or the two cards in their pocket to form a five card poker hand. 13. There is one final round of betting starting with the player to the left of the dealer. 14. After that, all of the players remaining in the game begin to reveal their hands. This begins with the player to the left of the last player to call. It's called the showdown. 15. The player who shows the best hand wins! There are cases where players with equal hands share the winnings. (www.texasholdem-poker.com) | |
Ben G, in a 2 player match, when a player goes "All-in" and the other calls, there is no more betting until the end of that round. The player who called cannot raise or make any more bets because the other player doesn't have any more money left, he went all in...
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I'm aware of that, Raildriver. However, I'm saying, "I'm ahead." could mean "I have more chips," not necessarily in the pot (although in this case they would be), but in his own personal pile.
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I was thinking that they both had similar hands, but with the next card, the "losing" player would somehow get the same hand as the other one. But I can't see how he could possibly know this for certain before the River card was even dealt...
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I'm going with Ben, lol...
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I don't understand why when the person calles the over turn their cards. I have never played No Limit Texas Hold'em. But I have read on the internet that calling only means to meat his beat. Not over turn your cards.
So in that way to exlain. The two people are just trash talking each other. 1st man saying hes ahead. Even though he dosn't know he is. And the 2nd man saying he is going to win. If thats not right could you tell me Bootyboy. Are the 2 men really showing there cards. And if so why? | |
In a standard no-limit tournament; there is a showdown between two players and one is all-in, both hands must be shown.
This is done to prevent chip dumping (the act of collusively having one person sacrifice his stack to a friend; having more chips gives you a better shot at placing in the money in an NL tourney). In NL ring games, you'll get a spatttering of casinos that will force two players to reveal their cards if one is all-in. So yes, they are showing their cards for the reasons mentioned above. | |
Hmm... let me see if I can offer a valid explanation. I'm a fan of Texas Hold 'Em so I enjoyed the puzzle.
How about this: Both men hold "pocket" pairs, that is to say, their private cards are both paried. 1st man has pair of 3's for example and the second man has a pair of 2's.... Obviously due to having a higher pair the 1st man is winning after the call. NOW lets say on the flop.. three kings come up (unlikely I know - but possible! :P) now.. both men have a full house, but they first man is ahead with three kings and two 3's. The first man is still ahead at this point. So the turn comes up - surprise surprise! It's another King! Both men make 4 of a kind and it's a split pot so neither can "lose". :) Hope that made sense to everyone! I guess there's mroe likely possibilities too, though. | |
Bahamatt: if the river (5th card) is a 2, then the pair of 3s wins with four of a kind kings... 3 kicker.
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Damn, phail.
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I don't understand... If the river was a 2 then the 2nd player would win with 4 kings and 3 2's against a pair of 3's and 2? Please explain what cards you use in the final decision. I don't play Texas Hold'em. Well never. Then again the 1st person would win if it was a 3.
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Bootyboy, can you please give me another day to answer.
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It's because you're only allowed 5 cards in your total over the total 7 that you have. It's all about making the best possible hand out of them. Therefore 4 kings and a 3 beats 4 kings and a 2. :(
I give up. I tried every combination I could think of, but failed to find a scenario where the 1st man is winning after the turn card, but cannot win the pot on the river. :S | |
Hmmm... I've got the right answer (or a right answer, anyhow), but I think I'm pretty well covered for membership. But no one else seems to have gotten it, so...
The first man holds 27, the second holds 56. Which makes me wonder why he went all-in, although I'll admit I'm a rookie when it comes to poker betting strategies. Anyhow, they reveal their cards and the 1st player is ahead--his high card (7) beats the 2nd player's high card (6). The flop gets dealt, 3-3-4. At this point both players have a pair of 3's, but the first player would still win since he has the high card after that. The turn card is another 4, so the two hands would be scored 4-4-3-3-7 vs. 4-4-3-3-6, thus the first player's hand is still stronger. But at this point, regardless of the final card that gets dealt, the second player is guaranteed to at least tie. If the final card is 2, then the second player has a straight 2-3-4-5-6. The first player holds two 2's, two 3's, two 4's and a 7, which still doesn't give him anything better than two pair. 2nd player wins. If the final card is 3 or 4, then both players have identical full houses based on the cards on the table and they split the pot. If the final card is a 5, then the second player gets a pair of 5's and gets 5-5-4-4-6 vs. the first player's 4-4-3-3-7. Second player has the highest pair, so he wins. If the final card is a 6, again the second player gets a high pair, 6-6-4-4-5 vs. 4-4-3-3-7. Second player wins again. If the final card is a 7, then the first player gets sevens for his high pair (7-7-4-4-3) but the second player ends up with a straight (3-4-5-6-7). If the final card is 8 or higher, then the cards on the board beat anything either player can make. They've got identical hands of 4-4-3-3-(8+), so they split the pot. | |
That is correct... well done Leftley.
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56 is an awesome 'no foldem' holdem hand. 27 is even better! I'll take those over AA any day of the week.
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NOOOOOO! Leftley! -_-
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Sorry. Since I don't really need the subscription extension now I guess I'll have to set up my own membership contest now to pay it forward. Or... more like paying it sideways or something.
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