As for the subject of telepathy, I'll just quote Bill:

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

A decade ago teleportation was fantasy, now it's reality. Invisibility was impossible, until it wasn't. We have continued to set limits on our understanding and are continually shown just how limited our understanding is.

Just because the Amazing Randi hasn't found someone who can pass his telepathy tests doesn't mean it's logically unreal. It just means that we don't understand it if it is real, or aren't asking the right questions if it isn't.

Telepathy on a technological scale is already being seriously discussed in mainstream science. There's no reason to assume nature didn't figure it out first. Creatures evolved to the point of interstellar travel could be very very old, with lots more time to explore nature's possibilities. Or maybe they just have nano-chips in their heads like Michio Kaku has been claiming we will have soon.

DarkView wrote:

I can't, but again your 400 people should be able to give us a yes or no on the important part of it.

Why?

If this was the case any of the witnesses who have seen a live alien moving around would mention they don't move so well in Earth's gravity.

You're assuming they had contact with live aliens. Most of these witnesses reported sightings, contact or involvement with craft, not creatures. I know of at least one who said he saw living aliens at a crash site, but didn't go into their behavior or physiology. Probably because they were just involved in a crash and probably didn't move so well at the time.

Even if only ten of them have experiences involving live aliens moving around like this, the testimony of those ten will all mention it if that's how it works. It's a note worthy observation that anyone would make without any prerequisite knowledge.

It's not really a question a military person would be asking them self if they saw an alien. That's a question for biologists.

But, yes, people have claimed this video does resemble aliens they saw in regards to how it moves. It's one of the things they point to as proof enough for them of it's validity.

DarkView wrote:

So they're pretty much testifying to the same stuff we've been hearing for years? Stuff that doesn't require their stories to match at all, doesn't really document anything and doesn't really implicate anyone.

They have more than just stories. They have physical evidence as well. And yeah, we're hearing the same stuff because not everything we've heard is untrue.

Just a questionnaire asking things like 'do you believe in aliens' and 'have you seen anything strange in the sky'.

Nope. That's not it at all.

That's a fair enough reason as to why their behaviour and physiology can't be taken as text-book stuff, but not a good reason why he doesn't go into it anyway.

Well, you're assuming he hasn't. I haven't read every testimony available, nor have I seen the hundreds of hours of video testimony they've compiled so far. I haven't thought it important enough an issue to pursue, a triviality at best. I'm sure it wasn't included in the press interview or the DVD tape because they felt the same way. Honestly, who cares?

The people at Disclosure Project are meant to be building a case. To do that they need to take full accounts of what these people have seen.

They have. You assume it's just "Oh, i saw teh lights!" and they fawn over them like gullible old ladies. They're selecting military and government people for a reason, and taking full accounts of their testimony.

And on the matter of building a case, I doubt they'd spend any time at all giving proof or evidence relating to physiology, evolutionary history or origin, other than to state that they're not from this planet. They'll focus on the hard evidence and testimony they have in regards to the government's involvement and cover-up. They'll use radar evidence, photos, physical evidence like debris and witness testimony from scientists who worked on these craft.

Where they come from, who they are and how they behave are interesting questions, and I'm sure someone in this group has answers. I don't feel it has any bearing on the disclosure, though.

If I give them a call and tell them I've had first hand experience with live aliens they should be probing me for all the information they can get.

They'll interview you, find out you're just telling a story with nothing to back it up, and dismiss you. Even if what you say is true, it won't add anything to their case, unless you can show some credentials or evidence. Duh.

In this case however it might not be abnormal at all but we're comparing them to how creatures we know move and act.

Irrelevant. See above.

According to your logic only clothes experts would take note of whether they're naked and only height experts would notice they're very tall. Only optometrists would notice they have big black eyes and only haberdashers would take note of their big heads.

Um, no. You're asking for details above and beyond observation. You can see it moves funny. Why, is not something you can tell from observation. These, like I said, are questions for biologists.

Which people? People in your Disclosure Project? Random people? Self-proclaimed experts?
What are they basing this off? Speculation? If we're five years away from total disclosure your experts should have a lot more than just 'it's possible they come from somewhere with low gravity'.

The people you continue to debase and ignore. Quit asking me and read for yourself. I'm not your personal sheppard in life.

Unlike other people in this thread I don't think Disclosure Project is a scam. They're probably being ripped off a lot themselves but honestly believe in what they're doing.

Yeah, ok. They're being ripped off by ex-military men, many of whom have very cushy pensions, who take nothing and give only testimony. They're being ripped off for asking questions and calling for a formal open investigation. When did it become wrong to question the government about what it's up to?

The more I hear about their witnesses and testimony however I get the impression that they're just fishing for real proof.

You mean more real proof. They're fishing all right, but they already have some big catches.

Putting out word that they have all these star witnesses, hoping that someone with actual proof will feel comfortable enough with them that they come forward and give them the key to blowing it all open.

Like they need a smoking gun at this point. They have plenty already. They're not looking for a sure-fire piece to bet the case on, they're being smart and compiling a mountain of evidence and testimony that will utterly destroy any opposition. That's the plan, not some quick and easy solution. Those never work.

Failing that they may just want to bluff their way into action.

I don't know how you could bluff something like this. Either their grounds for an investigation or there is not. It's up to Greer and his team to compile the best case they can to ensure it's approved by Congress. They're not going to pull any stunts. Not only would it ruin the project, it would also ruin the careers of thousands of people who are either involved or support the project.