I know someone who is working on a multiplayer Naruto game, like your average BYOND anime Naruto game.
He also happens to be no more experienced or older than your average BYOND anime user.
Yet he is producing results like these...
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/xRobotvsmonkeyx/ LNOPretty.png
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh104/Draft92/ HokageRasenganvsUnknownSword2-1.gif
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 May 16 2008, 2:32 am
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May 16 2008, 2:47 am (Edited on May 16 2008, 2:54 am)
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The Magic Man
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And if the stupid computer I am using would let me edit the original post I would make a snappy comment about how BYOND anime sucks so BADLY (lets face it, someone who would otherwise be your average BYOND anime member is making something that wipes the floor with every single BYOND anime game. The only difference between this guy and your average BYOND anime member is that this guy WANTS to make a genuinely good game, and is willing to put in the effort required to do so).
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Looks pretty, but it looks like it was an image pasted together rather than an actual in-game screenie. Still, if he were to get it to that point, it'd be a nice change from the typical half-assed 'insert shounen anime' games you see.
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Devourer Of Souls wrote:
Looks pretty, but it looks like it was an image pasted together rather than an actual in-game screenie. Still, if he were to get it to that point, it'd be a nice change from the typical half-assed 'insert shounen anime' games you see. The first image is an actual screenshot, the animated one isn't a screenshot, but it composed off ingame sprites and backgrounds. | |
Nice graphics.... where they made by a guy called Ciancio? if no then erm you have a problem... a guy called Ciancio asked me to help him with his work on a naruto base e.g.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee237/chrisgregg123/ base.png | |
Chris-g1 wrote:
Nice graphics.... where they made by a guy called Ciancio? if no then erm you have a problem... a guy called Ciancio asked me to help him with his work on a naruto base e.g. I think this Ciancio person is lying to you. Those graphics have been freely avaliable in the RPG Maker XP community for a good year or two now. He didn't make them, and probably edited them. Guess the anime community really doesn't have any morals about stealing other peoples work and claiming it as their own :[ | |
The Magic Man wrote:
The first image is an actual screenshot, the animated one isn't a screenshot, but it composed off ingame sprites and backgrounds. Are you sure? Because I find 710 x 785 an odd size for an in-game screenshot of anything, especially with no menu/title bar/etc in sight. | |
Devourer Of Souls wrote:
The Magic Man wrote: Like I said, this kid is basically your average anime guild member, only he wants to do something nice. Him using a strange screen resolution is no more strange than BYOND anime games using a view size of 11x11 (which is 352x352, which is just as strange). They could have also cropped the screen sloppily. The game is also in early development, it's no suprize the game doesn't have any sort of HUD yet. | |
The Magic Man wrote:
Chris-g1 wrote: doesnt surpise me anymore lol byond anime is just a waste.... interesting to see the turnings out of this new naruto game though that your showing, could be fun. | |
The trees look out of place...
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yeh compaired to the base, the icons need to be more bold i think to go with its style.
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I don't understand what you guys are talking about. Why should BYOND Anime be ashamed? Because they are not producing games like he is, or because they did something to the guy creating that game?
What the heck is going on... | |
Cavern wrote:
I don't understand what you guys are talking about. Why should BYOND Anime be ashamed? Because they are not producing games like he is, or because they did something to the guy creating that game? I think it's because that, even though someone who is on the same level as a good majority of BYOND Anime, he is producing something of higher quality than 80%+ of the games there. I don't think they should be ashamed per say, but they should definitely shoot higher than what they've settled for. | |
Devourer Of Souls wrote:
I don't think they should be ashamed per say, but they should definitely shoot higher than what they've settled for. Yeah, but that requires work. =/ | |
Cavern wrote:
Devourer Of Souls wrote: And that is what you should be ashamed of. BYOND Anime is as a whole lazy and making a game is not an easy task, making a decent game is even harder. Even with an easy to use program like BYOND having that sort of attitude while wanting to make a game is just wrong. If you are not willing to put the effort into the game then you wont get anything out of it. Hence the reason why BYOND anime games all suck, badly. Tell me, if suddenly BYOND did not allow rips anymore and began rapidly removing them what would you do? | |
The styles clash ridiculously, he's using free resources and the game has just been started. What exactly makes him different from the "average BYOND anime user"? I really hope he's using the byond engine or this thread doesn't even mean anything to begin with.
Rips have made this new generation lazy, but I suggest you quit your generalization and pick who you're talking to. | |
The Magic Man wrote:
And that is what you should be ashamed of. BYOND Anime is as a whole lazy and making a game is not an easy task, making a decent game is even harder. Even with an easy to use program like BYOND having that sort of attitude while wanting to make a game is just wrong. I would be unaffected either way, honestly. I don't really take a deep look around the bowels of BYOND Anime and the two games of mine that are listed in the guild are originals. So really, you just have a bunch of kids who don't want to put forth much effort. This is normal, unfortunately... Luckily, we have the convenience on BYOND to have them all tucked away from sight. | |
Hulio-G wrote:
The styles clash ridiculously, he's using free resources and the game has just been started. What exactly makes him different from the "average BYOND anime user"? I really hope he's using the byond engine or this thread doesn't even mean anything to begin with. He is using resources intended to be used as a base. All he is given is basically an outline, he has drawn everything else (clothes, hair, body features and what not). Also, this isn't made with BYOND, but that doesn't mean anything. He is doing the exact same thing as your average BYOND anime user in a very similar situation, he is about as skilled and experienced as average BYOND anime user and is using a tool that is about as difficult to use as BYOND (but does not come with built in multiplayer enabled, he has to make that on his own). He is doing something just as hard as it would be with BYOND and putting in just as much time and effort that BYOND would require, so why wouldn't it mean anything? As for who I am talking to, rippers in general. It just so happens the vast majority of rippers are in some way related to BYOND anime (though not all of BYOND anime are rippers). Also, the styles might clash. But like I said, he is a total amateur at this, and compared to most games of a similar nature on BYOND (and the majority of BYOND games) what he has got looks a hell of a lot better. (Lets face it, though BYOND now has decent graphics capabilities most BYOND games don't even get close to looking good, or even decent) | |
so basically your saying take time in your work, dont rip and byond anime will be better... not the best example in the world but its better then nothing.
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Chris-g1 wrote:
so basically your saying take time in your work, dont rip and byond anime will be better... not the best example in the world but its better then nothing. A rip is like a pile of poo. Put as many sprinkes as you want on it, it is still a pile of poo. Would you eat it? Personally I'd rather spend time and effort making a nice, tasty muffin. If you want to make a good game how do you do it? There is no solid formula for it. You put time and effort into it, and that time and effort will generally show in the game you have made. As you get better at making games your likely hood of making an excellent game increases (and it is really hard to get good at making games when all you are doing is making superficial changes to someone elses coding). From pretty much every rip on BYOND I hae seen it would be impossible to make a decent game from it, because the original is not good. (After playing a few newer rips on BYOND I just wonder how they get away with it :[ Seriously, BYOND is probably the only place on the internet which would accept such low quality games, and I would say those rips are the worst games I have ever played, ever) | |