SGO Review

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Jan 4 2008, 1:05 am (Edited on Jan 4 2008, 1:13 am)
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The author of this post is subject to bias. We of BYOND RPG ensure you, however, that the author's potential bias has affected the contents of this post as little as possible.

So, Stargate Online then. It may seem unfair reviewing a game I created, but then again ownership was transferred roughly five years ago to a man who calls himself Yurgeta on BYOND.

For this review I am going to base it partially on this post from Dream Makers, which I find ironic if you compare it to Stargate Online.

1.0 Features and Gameplay



1.1 Features - 7.8
When I logged into the game I saw very little changed from what I already knew. Feature-wise the game is lacking, and without some proper design, I don't think much will happen.

Languages, for instance, are implemented, but so far the only language you can speak is appearantly "Basic". Using verbs for commands rather than putting it on a HUD, which already exists, is also a turn-off for me.

Some features however, such as the introduction of Daemons and other non-canon races with weird technologies aren't very good additions. Their weapons are sometimes overpowered because nobody bothered to consider what the impact of this added race would be on the entire game as a whole.

The rest of the features in the game, even those who aren't completely canon, I find to be good additions.

1.2 Gameplay - 5
This is where I find the game lacking. There is very little to do except for a bit of role-playing and killing eachother with whatever weapons you can find. There don't seem to be that many quests, and the ones that are done -- like I would presume the tutorial 'quest' -- have things like spelling mistakes which don't get fixed even on the production server.

2.0 Resources



2.1 Graphics - 9.5
The graphics are just awesome. They look nice, apart from a few glitches here and there (I personally don't agree with the look of Stargate Command, the homeworld of the humans, for one: the blast doors look out of place when closed).

2.2 Sounds and Music - 7.3
While the game does not have music, it does have a wide variety of sounds which aren't painful to listen to or anything. These sounds bring you closer into this universe, which is a pleasant thing.

3.0 Administration - 1



I am unsure if I can give a proper objective reading on this, but from what I can tell (and others agree with me), the owner of the game, Yurgeta, is an abuser of the highest level.

I find Yurgeta to be too incompetent to be running SGO, because he mixes personal feelings with his responsibilities as a game owner. One wrong word against him and you're banned, possibly permanently.

Under his reign Yurgeta frightens the players to the point where they won't speak up anymore, not pointing out errors like spelling mistakes out of fear that Yurgeta will believe they're insulting his dyslexia and as such will be promptly banned.

It has gone to the point where he has actually begun "blacklisting" other games. That's right: if you join a game Yurgeta doesn't like you'll get banned from SGO. Right now, this list includes all games made by the key "Gatdude" and the game "Star Trek Adventures".

Final Score- 6.12



If you can stand being surpressed by the game staff and not join those blacklisted games, and if you're not going to speak up about things you see you don't like, SGO is the game for you. Otherwise, you should look for another game.

-- Data
Jan 4 2008, 1:20 am
I agree
Jan 4 2008, 1:49 am
Definately agree, and since this review is now on the SGO Hub, I hope more players will stand up against Yurg's incompetence.
Jan 4 2008, 2:12 am (Edited by moderator on May 31 2008, 4:34 pm)
Well, if the owner is such a [poodle], why did you give the source code to him in the first place?
Jan 4 2008, 2:26 am
DivineO'peanut wrote:
Well, if the owner is such an asshole, why did you give the source code to him in the first place?

It was back in 2003. I was a fool. After all, I just had gotten banned from BYOND.

But I didn't really give the source-code per-se. I gave him ownership. He's still smart enough not to blatantly rip a game.

-- Data
Jan 4 2008, 4:21 am
This Review is almost based on a older version of the game and how are you able to Review a game which your been banned from months ago.

The Deamons been removed months ago.

Yes, Your are able to learn other Languages but everyone starts with basic.

The tutorial which is currently in will be remade and more Quests will be added in due time.

Blacklisting games like Gatdudes ones which are rips of all the other stargate games on Byond is wise but i have no idea why STA is blacklisted.
Jan 4 2008, 4:21 am
Hmmm cant you two get along for once!
yes i agree with some of the comments data has made but SGO is a great game with great people and I just think data is jealous because hes not part of it thats why he has been trying to create a Stargate Game of his own.


Jan 4 2008, 4:30 am
Im sorry I probably shouldn't laugh but I can't help myself!
Jan 4 2008, 4:30 am
Charmed_Forever wrote:
I just think data is jealous because hes not part of it thats why he has been trying to create a Stargate Game of his own.

I admit, at first I was, because I was under the impression it was my game to begin with, and I couldn't even login.

However, this review is not about that. This review is simply to underline the ongoing problems.

-- Data
Jan 4 2008, 9:46 am
First of all, the posts have a yay or nay system for a reason. Sure it's on your hub, but if you don't agree with it, push the nay button. It shows that on the hub as well. It's a bad review, but it shows a bunch of people disagreeing with it.

Now then, I didn't bother reading half the posts, because it seemed like a really pointless squabble between two people that don't like eachother. This isn't some place where you should be taking these squabbles, especially with your lack of control over your language.

This is BYOND RPG. One of the main guilds for the site to list games of this genre. You should be mature enough to handle the priviledge of posting here, and if you have a game, you should be mature enough to handle critisism.
Jan 4 2008, 10:04 am
Kobashi wrote:
As, what Data refers to as, a intelligent Byond player (ie. One who can spell, use correct grammar and punctuation, forms ones own opinions, has basic convictions) I find SGO a very interesting place. Until recently I was even a staff member there, so the implication that my duty there was to 'put players down' is somewhat offensive.

One of the rules is that you guys have to ban people if they play a game Yurgeta doesn't like. It's a poor rule, and the simple fact staff follows them proves they're not intelligent enough to think straight.

-- Data
Jan 4 2008, 10:05 am
Criticism is one thing, even in a review, but in most sensible reviews, half the overall work is not spent, say, badmouthing the director or those involved in production (writing styles not withstanding). But it must be said, Mikau is, if mathamatically possible, 110% right.
Jan 4 2008, 10:08 am
Android Data wrote:
Kobashi wrote:
As, what Data refers to as, a intelligent Byond player (ie. One who can spell, use correct grammar and punctuation, forms ones own opinions, has basic convictions) I find SGO a very interesting place. Until recently I was even a staff member there, so the implication that my duty there was to 'put players down' is somewhat offensive.

One of the rules is that you guys have to ban people if they play a game Yurgeta doesn't like. It's a poor rule, and the simple fact staff follows them proves they're not intelligent enough to think straight.

-- Data

Actually, they only ban you if you are a staff member on a blacklisted game. I still think it's horrible, but there's never been much I could do about any of this.
Jan 4 2008, 10:08 am
Mikau wrote:
Now then, I didn't bother reading half the posts, because it seemed like a really pointless squabble between two people that don't like eachother. This isn't some place where you should be taking these squabbles, especially with your lack of control over your language.

I did not resort to name-calling as far as my word-search shows me: Yurgeta has been the one with clear lack of control of his language. Ironic, because in the game people would be banned for using the same language.

He decided to post things like "Data is just jealous" and I replied to this in my defense. I also gave some more points.

Furthermore, I think the entire point of these reviews is to bring out games like this and show to the entire community what they are. Whilst this may be commented on a lot I doubt that these comments will continue forever. Posts certain other people make have over a hundred comments on them so I don't think the 20-or-so comments this one has made makes much difference.

But as I said, I shall stop replying to Yurgeta as I've said everything that needs to be said.

-- Data
Jan 4 2008, 10:08 am
True. Which is why I did admit, SGO has rule problems. As rules go, it's just plain bad. Personally, it is one I never had to follow or adhere to. Banning someone is an easy way out of the situation, as things can usually be resolved through other means (Except for spammers, who are scum).

There's been alot of SGO staff who didn't follow that rule. Myself for one. Lady Nightstalker. Nadrew. Drake has yet to do so either. So please don't paint us all with the same brush.
Jan 4 2008, 10:11 am
Kobashi wrote:
Criticism is one thing, even in a review, but in most sensible reviews, half the overall work is not spent, say, badmouthing the director or those involved in production (writing styles not withstanding). But it must be said, Mikau is, if mathamatically possible, 110% right.

The entire reason for this review was to address this issue. You may not like it, but until you've actually played SGO you shouldn't cast judgement on whether or not I should be doing that.

-- Data
Jan 4 2008, 10:12 am
Android Data wrote:
Kobashi wrote:
Criticism is one thing, even in a review, but in most sensible reviews, half the overall work is not spent, say, badmouthing the director or those involved in production (writing styles not withstanding). But it must be said, Mikau is, if mathamatically possible, 110% right.

The entire reason for this review was to address this issue. You may not like it, but until you've actually played SGO you shouldn't cast judgement on whether or not I should be doing that.

-- Data

Data.
He staffed there.

*rimshot*
Jan 4 2008, 10:13 am
Android Data wrote:
'.... but until you've actually played SGO you shouldn't cast judgement on whether or not I should be doing that.....'
-- Data

Ehm, not only have I been playign SGO for nearly a year (2 weeks or so till the 12 month mark), I also spent 6 months as a staff member there. I know, my key is nothing like my name, due to me insisting on geeky references.

*Is Maru*
Jan 4 2008, 10:18 am
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Fuck, Data. You gave your game to this guy? How the fuck does a 22 year old do this senseless shit? O_o
Jan 4 2008, 10:20 am
Mikau wrote:
First of all, the posts have a yay or nay system for a reason. Sure it's on your hub, but if you don't agree with it, push the nay button. It shows that on the hub as well. It's a bad review, but it shows a bunch of people disagreeing with it.

Now then, I didn't bother reading half the posts, because it seemed like a really pointless squabble between two people that don't like eachother. This isn't some place where you should be taking these squabbles, especially with your lack of control over your language.

This is BYOND RPG. One of the main guilds for the site to list games of this genre. You should be mature enough to handle the priviledge of posting here, and if you have a game, you should be mature enough to handle critisism.


i didnt want my game submitted to this, someone else is responsible for that, u should check with people if they want it featured or not, then u wouldnt get this crap would you. its simple i dont want my game featured on a site were people are only going to bitch how i run my game. critasisum is 1 thing, but plainly insulting people crosses the line.
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