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So, I came to Byond just to play games and do what I love to do, and then one day I was sick and tired of so many Naruto rips, so I started to learn the programming language and create my own Naruto game. I mean whats better then creating a game of your own thoughts not 100% yours, but like 90% yours or using other people's idea to better yours. But when you try to get closer and closer to completing it and you ask people for help they don't even take a moment to look or talk or anything. I mean whats the point of trying to finish up something if you don't know how to do it and people wont help you? I mean its all good and nice that people make tuts and what not to help you out, but not everyone understands them because we all work in our own way. So I mean a true creator would help people as best as they know how. Right?
Actually many "true creators" tend to seem like jerks because they're busy with their creations. What I found a great help when I was getting started was looking through the history of the code help forums for interesting topics. And now the code help forums on BYOND go back about 8 years! Just start paging through the archives looking for topics that interest you... not all of them will be gems, but if you're patient and keep browsing, you'll pick up a lot just by following the conversations.

And of course Dream Makers (and its ancestor, BYONDscape.com) are great resources too. You will be surprised how much you can learn just by poking around and looking for stuff that sounds interesting... there will be time later on for the stuff that sounds boring.

Gughunter wrote:
Actually many "true creators" tend to seem like jerks because they're busy with their creations. What I found a great help when I was getting started was looking through the history of the code help forums for interesting topics. And now the code help forums on BYOND go back about 8 years! Just start paging through the archives looking for topics that interest you... not all of them will be gems, but if you're patient and keep browsing, you'll pick up a lot just by following the conversations.

And of course Dream Makers (and its ancestor, BYONDscape.com) are great resources too. You will be surprised how much you can learn just by poking around and looking for stuff that sounds interesting... there will be time later on for the stuff that sounds boring.

Hmm, that is oh so true, I've found alot of things that have helped me from the beginning that is the why I understand coding so well now, but there are new ideas coming out everyday and not everyone has thought about it before so you need help to get started, but it seems like everytime you try to come with something new people just shoot down your ideas or even willing to help. I thought BYOND was for the good of all coders? But the way some people act makes me thing otherwise.
In all honesty its more "another naruto game" and less "a rip" that turns me off from the help forums. I don't care what the "originality percentage" is if its still just another freakin' anime game.
Foomer wrote:
In all honesty its more "another naruto game" and less "a rip" that turns me off from the help forums. I don't care what the "originality percentage" is if its still just another freakin' anime game.
Yeah, I understand how that works, but sometimes you get caught in anime so hard, its really hard to break free from it. Even when you really don't have a life aside from school, your girlfriend, and working. But I figure, I would go old-school and make a text-based anime game, so the good old MUDers can come and play..
Of course you realize, anime is inherently graphical, so the only thing you're doing by making a text-based "anime" is wasting your perfectly good creativity on copyrighted and excessively cliche material. Change the names to something that isn't based on somebody else's work and you'll have something that's actually original.
Foomer wrote:
Of course you realize, anime is inherently graphical, so the only thing you're doing by making a text-based "anime" is wasting your perfectly good creativity on copyrighted and excessively cliche material. Change the names to something that isn't based on somebody else's work and you'll have something that's actually original.
Yeah, I figure as much, as this really is, is a way to prove to myself, that I can do something by applying myself. I mean if I can get this down and whatnot I will create something "orginal"

I don't understand why everyone seems to think they need to create something unoriginal before they can create something original.

Why not just face it: Anime has sucked your brains out and turned you into a mindless anime-craving zombie.
Foomer wrote:
I don't understand why everyone seems to think they need to create something unoriginal before they can create something original.

Why not just face it: Anime has sucked your brains out and turned you into a mindless anime-craving zombie.

Ok, I'll face it. Anime is my life....I suck I know. I guess I'll work on this plus start creating my something orginal in the mist of it all..
Creating something unoriginal is easier than creating something original. That's why many of the anime fan-games look bad compared to the original games, because a lot of the people who program the anime fan-games are just learning how to code.
No its not. You just change the names and design the graphics to not resemble something. Creating something original is EASIER than creating something unoriginal. You have more freedom and less restrictions on what you can create.