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Keywords: shenanigans
You know, I've read so many blog entries lately relating on things such as "the problem with BYOND games (and/or the BYOND comunity as a whole) as of late" and I noticed they all shared a simple common bond, and that is:

They don't seem to be willing to do something about it!

Finding flaws in anything is never a bad thing per se. However, as far as I'm concerned, finding flaws for the sole purpose of reinforcing one's own opinion is, and that's what most people seem to do (with maybe one exception or two).

To those putting their own into the "solutions", I salute you. But to those who only whine about those problems without, at the very least, proposing a viable solution, I will say this: If you won't do something about what you whine, then spare us the trouble of knowing your useless grief!
Hope you aren't talking to me, because I gave a solution.
GoodDoggyTreat wrote:
Hope you aren't talking to me, because I gave a solution.

Miles_Edgeworth wrote:
But to those who only whine about those problems without, at the very least, proposing a viable solution, I will say this:

Hmm...
I propose we make one game that's worked on by the whole community.

Benefits:
1- No one gets left behind!
2- People can learn.
3- Experienced coders help out beginners by fixing their codes.
4- Iconists make good icons for the game.
5- The source code can't be released, because everyone has it anyway.

Maybe you could put it on an FTP server that someone updates when they add a new thing.


I have an idea for the game, but I'm not telling. >=P
GoodDoggyTreat wrote:
Hope you aren't talking to me, because I gave a solution.

As I said, there were a few exceptions along the way.
I think the whole point of a blog is to have a place where you can vent your feelings and have people respond to your feelings however they feel like. If their goal is to make practical solutions, these people would be publishing developer diaries and not weblogs.
Jtgibson wrote:
I think the whole point of a blog is to have a place where you can vent your feelings and have people respond to your feelings however they feel like. If their goal is to make practical solutions, these people would be publishing developer diaries and not weblogs.

That I know and I am not taking anything away from anyone. Don't get me wrong here. Anyone can speak his/her mind, there's no question about it.

I'm just speaking mine as well. :) And it comes out as it comes out.
I notice everyone ignored me.
Squeegy wrote:
I notice everyone ignored me.

Your idea is like communism. In theory, it works. In practice, dumbshits kill it. <.<
I left Russia for a reason. <_<
Just like Linux!
Tiberath wrote:
In practice, dumbshits kill it.

Ah, but this idea is dumbshit-proof for several reasons!

1- Everyone has the source.
2- You need to know how to update an FTP server to use it.
3- People can fix mistakes and stupidity left behind.

Squeegy wrote:
Tiberath wrote:
In practice, dumbshits kill it.

Ah, but this idea is dumbshit-proof for several reasons!

1- Everyone has the source.
2- You need to know how to update an FTP server to use it.
3- People can fix mistakes and stupidity left behind.


"Dumbshit" doesn't necessarily mean "computer illiterate", you know.

Plus, we often call someone an idiot for reasons other than his/her intellectual inferiority. So yeah, it may be "foolproof", but stupid egoistical retards will take the project and claim it their own (as stupid as such a move would be).

Good will + jerks = failure
Miles_Edgeworth wrote:
Squeegy wrote:
Tiberath wrote:
In practice, dumbshits kill it.

Ah, but this idea is dumbshit-proof for several reasons!

1- Everyone has the source.
2- You need to know how to update an FTP server to use it.
3- People can fix mistakes and stupidity left behind.


"Dumbshit" doesn't necessarily mean "computer illiterate", you know.

Plus, we often call someone an idiot for reasons other than his/her intellectual inferiority. So yeah, it may be "foolproof", but stupid egoistical retards will take the project and claim it their own (as stupid as such a move would be).

Good will + jerks = failure

Well, it'd hardly be their own when every single person on BYOND knows it's no one's. Plus, then they'd have to code and icon themselves. The game is everdeveloping, y'see, and they'd get left in the dust.
Squeegy wrote:
Miles_Edgeworth wrote:
Squeegy wrote:
Tiberath wrote:
In practice, dumbshits kill it.

Ah, but this idea is dumbshit-proof for several reasons!

1- Everyone has the source.
2- You need to know how to update an FTP server to use it.
3- People can fix mistakes and stupidity left behind.


"Dumbshit" doesn't necessarily mean "computer illiterate", you know.

Plus, we often call someone an idiot for reasons other than his/her intellectual inferiority. So yeah, it may be "foolproof", but stupid egoistical retards will take the project and claim it their own (as stupid as such a move would be).

Good will + jerks = failure

Well, it'd hardly be their own when every single person on BYOND knows it's no one's. Plus, then they'd have to code and icon themselves. The game is everdeveloping, y'see, and they'd get left in the dust.

As stated before, the idea is alright in theory. People make it a bad idea.

Why? Because it's not everybody that would be interested into sharing such an utopic view. Everyone's different, and while some people do respect that, others don't and won't stand for that.

I know, that's stupid, but that's how it is. But as I said, the idea's cool. It's just that people, in general, aren't. :(
Miles_Edgeworth wrote:
I know, that's stupid, but that's how it is. But as I said, the idea's cool. It's just that people, in general, aren't. :(

We could close it down to only allow non-dumbshits.


Squeegy wrote:
Miles_Edgeworth wrote:
I know, that's stupid, but that's how it is. But as I said, the idea's cool. It's just that people, in general, aren't. :(

We could close it down to only allow non-dumbshits.


Hmm... then we'd only allow a handful of people, and it would just become a normal project, like so many out there.

If only people would stick together more than they do now...