What I find amusing is that in most Discord servers related to BYOND games, you can encounter frequent use of the N-word.

Funny you should say that! Our server is built different.

The only surviving use of the n-word that our moderators have not deleted the second we saw it, is one helping someone to write a regex tool to stop people from using the n-word in a BYOND game.


The second result, I'm not displaying, because the user was explaining what their language's racial slurs were in order to educate our non-speaking moderators were in order to assist with a moderation decision.

The fact that you will call the term 'nazi' the n-word, but then state your comfort with the widespread use of the hard r racial slur, is a kind gift to me. Thank you. You show off your empty ban list like it's a point of pride. I'm proud of our server having a log empty of hate speech. The two things are related.

BYONDiscord: We ban nazis.

We will not be most BYOND discords. We have standards for who we allow to participate, and basic human decency and respect is what it all boils down to. We do not fuck around with hate speech. We do not want to chill with anyone who does. Subscribing to ideologies of hate, particularly misogyny and racism, assures us that you lack the capacity for empathy and respect. Once you have displayed you are part of that, we cannot expose our other members to you. Everything isn't about you. Other people exist, and deserve dignity and respect, and if you can't meet the most basic ground floor of human decency: Accepting that you don't get to deny other people humanity because they look different from you, you do not belong in ANY community.

I only control mine.

You appear to be concerned about Lummox, but I believe this entire issue could potentially harm both him and BYOND as a whole. I sincerely hope you're prepared to accept responsibility for any outcomes that may arise.

Nice threats, dude! "We only wanted to help the platform" indeed!
In response to Ter13
Ter13 wrote:
What I find amusing is that in most Discord servers related to BYOND games, you can encounter frequent use of the N-word.



The second result, I'm not displaying, because the user was explaining what their language's racial slurs were in order to educate our non-speaking moderators were in order to assist with a moderation decision.

The only other use of the n-word that our moderators have not deleted the second we saw it, is one helping someone to write a regex tool to stop people from using the n-word in a BYOND game.

The fact that you will call the term 'nazi' the n-word, but then state your comfort with the widespread use of the hard r racial slur, is a kind gift to me. Thank you.

BYONDiscord: We ban nazis.

You appear to be concerned about Lummox, but I believe this entire issue could potentially harm both him and BYOND as a whole. I sincerely hope you're prepared to accept responsibility for any outcomes that may arise.

Nice threats, dude! "We only wanted to help the platform" indeed!

You seem to be selectively interpreting things. I didn't refer to your BYOND fan server specifically. I was talking about other BYOND servers, particularly those associated with the majority of games on BYOND. It's common to encounter all kinds of slurs and insults there, which is somewhat expected in the context of PvP games. My point stands, and you're free to continue editing your posts and hurling insults if you wish. I consider that to be beneath me.

Regarding the past tense, let me clarify: We have been supporting BYOND, we are currently supporting it, and we will continue to do so through tutorials and fostering a welcoming community.

<rp>
Smiling, I toss my hair back and give a thumbs-up, my back turned to you as I gaze into the sun.

"I'll be here until the very end of BYOND, Ter, whenever that may be. No matter how much you try to censor and push away those you dislike."

I notice my friend Ourico in the distance, smiling. A grin spreads across my face as I walk away from the defeated Ter the Terrible. Approaching Ourico, our fists meet in a firm bump. We both laugh and start walking off into the sunset

"Bro, those Rhodesian light infantry shorts are awesome."

I pat the ones I'm wearing, "Great minds do think alike." Our voices fade into the distance as we continue our journey, off to meet the rest of our friends.
Zeke wrote:
You seem to be selectively interpreting things. I didn't refer to your BYOND fan server specifically. I was talking about other BYOND servers, particularly those associated with the majority of games on BYOND.

Look man, I'd draw you a diagram to keep you on track, but I ate all of the crayons. I rebutted your argument about what is normal on this platform with an image showing we're doing things differently. You know why BYONDiscord exists? Because BYOND does a poor job banning hate speech, harassment, and abuse of the platform.

The discord servers that fell apart before ours existed fell apart because of moderator inaction, and the eventual community fallout from hate being permitted to take root and become normalized.

You telling me that hate speech on this platform is normal, is again, a gift, because Taitz' accusation that I am destroying BYOND by pushing talented developers out should be framed against this context. Every single person I have beefed with to the point of a ban was someone I saw attacking everyone in arm's reach of them, and using the platform to spew hate and engage in harassment. They chased away FAR more people than I have, and it's my opinion that if our community is a safe haven for hate speech enthusiasts, it's not a safe community for anyone but hate speech enthusiasts.

So pointing out that the only server you are beefing with is the one that disallows hate speech, again, serves my purposes perfectly to illustrate WHY I am standing up and saying "no more", and drawing your ire to myself in the hopes that you fuck up so badly here (and you already have) that no one has to deal with it again.

Ourico wrote:
Zeke is correct: I do not identify with either of the slurs you have used to describe me. It would be mature and polite of you not to continue using them.





You're an admitted ethnic nationalist who believes that there is a conspiracy of Jews controlling the media and using blacks and gays to weaken America so that they can control it. You believe that blacks are breeding with "your" women and destroying your great white race.

To normal people, that's a Nazi. I really don't care for you putting polite euphemisms in peoples' mouths to hide what you think behind words like "Ethnic Nationalist" or "Race Realist" or whatever term you wanna use because being told you are saying and doing Nazi things makes you more uncomfortable than saying and doing Nazi things.

It's a distinction without a difference.

If you are more comfortable saying racial, misogynistic, and homophobic slurs than the word Nazi, you are all but certainly a Nazi.
In response to Eziekieal
Eziekieal wrote:
<rp>
Smiling, I toss my hair back and give a thumbs-up, my back turned to you as I gaze into the sun.

"I'll be here until the very end of BYOND, Ter, whenever that may be. No matter how much you try to censor and push away those you dislike."

I notice my friend Ourico in the distance, smiling. A grin spreads across my face as I walk away from the defeated Ter the Terrible. Approaching Ourico, our fists meet in a firm bump. We both laugh and start walking off into the sunset

"Bro, those Rhodesian light infantry shorts are awesome."

I pat the ones I'm wearing, "Great minds do think alike." Our voices fade into the distance as we continue our journey, off to meet the rest of our friends.

I let this thread marinade in the hopes that y'all could air out your grievances. This, in hindsight, may have been a mistake.

If I wasn't involved, I'd have taken a look at a thread like this when I woke up in the morning, thought to myself "What the fuck?" and nuked it. So, I'm going to do that now.

I'm handing out 30 day bans to everyone predominately involved (Ourico, Eziekieal, Ter13) on the basis that... This forum isn't supposed to be for this kind of nonsense. I'll send messages to each of you that're personalized that detail why. Not to mention, anyone else looking on and seeing this kind of thing go on without some sort of action against the related accounts would kind of be a slap in the face to BYOND's moderation choices.

Go make cool games/libraries/art, ya jerks.
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