I'll be honest, I'm not sure how to respond to that one Koz, or if I'm understanding it correctly.

I'll try to explain how I'm reading it and respond as best I can - please correct me if I am off the mark.

My interpretation of this is that you're feeling like this discussion between you and I is causing the true issues (I'll admit I have no true concept of what issues you're referring to here) to be ignored and fester and bring in people with extreme and potentially dangerous views.

If that's the case, then I would simply say that I don't quite understand how that would be the case if we are simply having an extremely civil conversation with attempts to come to an understanding.

But apart from that, I don't really know. Please correct any misunderstandings I have here.

Just some dudes wanting to get along. I'm nowhere near that qualified, nor do I want to be tbh.

I'm giving you a space to express yourself without being attacked, hoping to just understand where you're coming from. I'm putting into the action the exact concept I posited earlier, because it needs to happen on micro scales like this.

A rational conversation between people that are upset/afraid and people actually involved in events like drag queen storytime would probably clear up so many fears, assuming both sides are willing to be civil and let their opinions become malleable from what they've been told.

drag queens did 9/11

Popisfizzy wrote:

covid-19 was an extraterrestrial job. also those extraterrestrials are pedophiles who want to turn your kids into frogs and then turn the frogs gay

I support whatever this is

It must be exhausting for you to run around being afraid of people all the time lol go outside and touch some grass kozuma you big baby.

Windows vs Linux

TiltHour wrote:

Spevacus wrote:

Windows vs Linux

mac

just linux in streetwear

Ter, nobody is coming to kill queers. There's no "kill the gays" rhetoric from the right. That nightclub incident was gay on gay crime. I can't even recall anyone getting beat up for being gay. If anything gets the LGBTLMAO nonsense killed, it will be molesting kids.

We kill child rapists. No apologies. Grooming is a thing. Celebrating gay sexuality in a gay bar with small children as the main guests is grooming. There is no debate.

Do you know who is getting beat and shot over this? We are. The parents who protest are beat by your hired thugs, Antifa. Run over by radicallized sociopaths that listen to your racist garbage and lies. Killed, by liberals.

Who was the last liberal victim of conservative violence? Everytime one comes up it turns out to be false, twisted, and used to further vilify the right.

We're not radicallized. We're exactly where we were 20 years ago. See, we conserve standards and traditions and morals. It's you who have moved extreme left. You who have proven to be fascist. Tyrants. Liars. Warmongers. Thieves.

Cry me a river. All you wanted was equal rights. You have them. Nobody cares what you do in bed. Now you want our kids. No. You can't have them. Nobody will allow that without a fight. Damn right.

Xooxer wrote:

There's no "kill the gays" rhetoric from the right.

I have actual ran into individuals on Discord who wanted that, and they work in the medical field. There is evil and it needs purged, just being honest.

"The cost of sanity in this society is a certain level of alienation"

Xooxer wrote:

That nightclub incident was gay on gay crime.

For clarity - which nightclub incident are you referring to?

The Club Q shooting where the shooter claimed to be nonbinary and use they/them once he was caught with no evidence of ever having used anything other than he/him, not a single person stepping up to corroborate, and the lawyer using he/him once he was charged?

Or maybe the Pulse shooting where the shooter was claimed to have been gay but also had nothing beyond hearsay to corroborate and not even the FBI looking into the apps he was claimed to have used could find record of him using them?

Or are we talking about a different one?

Because as it stands, in relation to your notion that:

Everytime one comes up it turns out to be false, twisted, and used to further vilify the right.

These cases appear to be attempting to twist the perpetrator into something that can be propagandized as "gay on gay crime". And that's not even me saying they were right wing, I make no claims on their political orientation. There's plenty of right wing queer people. But these cases are extremely suspicious at best, unfortunately.

I can't even recall anyone getting beat up for being gay.

I took a few seconds out of my day to Google it for you. I'm sure there's plenty more. When establishing a stance to have and defend, it may help to operate on as much factual information as possible rather than your own feelings and memory.