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 May 11 2009, 2:16 pm
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Well I just signed up with a new Cell phone company. My girlfriend got a black berry. I am looking at a Palm OS smart phone. I was curious, are Palm OS smart phones compatible with standard Palm OS applications?
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May 11 2009, 3:28 pm
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PirateHead
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If you're talking about the old Palm OS, then duh. If you're talking about the new WebOS (which is NOT Palm OS) then they claim it's compatible, but we have yet to see to what extent that's really true.
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Full classic support!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFxXmR1xwo0 Great eh? Certain "Classic" things will be disabled, I read somewhere, like Hotsync and whatnot. Other than that, it can run a full-blown Palm OS classic instance as seen in the video. The Pre will be the perfect phone to replace my Centro! Assuming I can afford it... ~Kujila | |
But the "Classic" emulator will cost money(something reasonable for Palm OS lovers), because Palm isn't actually making it, they let another company make it, and just gave them greater access than normal developers.
I will be getting a Pre when it comes out, but that's still about a month away by most estimates. | |
Danial.Beta wrote:
I will be getting a Pre when it comes out Really? You're a better man then I, mate; just looking at the Pre makes me cringe from a strong case of ugly. :( If I were to get a new phone right now, I'd either go the route of getting an iPhone, terminating the AT&T contract, jailbreaking it, and popping in my T-mobile SIM card, or getting a Nokia 5800 XpressMusic (I like it more in terms of design and features, but it lacks as much cool software). More interesting to me, though, is the Sony Ericsson Idou, for which I'm hoping to see more info about on May 28th. This is the phone I'm saving up for, it should be coming up around Q3 or Q4 2009. But back to the point, I've never understood interest in phones like the Pre or the G1 or...all these other phones that just look ugly to me. Haha I guess that's just a matter of personal opinion though. | |
Kuraudo wrote:
But back to the point, I've never understood interest in phones like the Pre or the G1 or...all these other phones that just look ugly to me. Haha I guess that's just a matter of personal opinion though. It must be. I think the Pre is an extremely sexy phone with a very sexy OS(from what I hear, it functions as smooth as it looks in the demos shown). The iPhone has a visual consistency going for it, but besides that it doesn't look that pretty or functional to me(I've never owned one, just looked at other people's). The sleek design of the Pre with the hide away keyboard appeals to both my want for a physical keyboard and a nice touch screen. As it is, I own a BlackBerry, and it's functional for what it was made to do(although third party apps tend be really poor quality visually, and usually functionality wise), but it's quite ugly, slow, and a pain to navigate. I'll take it over a razr any day, but still not exactly my cup of tea. The battery life, however, is awesome. | |
Danial.Beta wrote:
Kuraudo wrote: I'm in the same boat. I think the Pre looks great. I also like the G1 a lot. I don't own one, but I've got friends who do. I can't wait for Verizon to come out with a hackable smart phone! | |
PirateHead wrote:
I can't wait for Verizon to come out with a hackable smart phone! http://www.openmoko.com/ | |
digitalmouse wrote:
PirateHead wrote: Openmoko uses GSM technology, not CDMA. | |
Slime Lord wrote:
Openmoko uses GSM technology, not CDMA. and what does that have to do with a 'hackable smart phone' ? besides knowing that GSM is generally better for international coverage and the use of SIM cards to store your personal data and contacts than CDMA, unless you need CDMA's higher data transfer rates. | |
digitalmouse wrote:
Slime Lord wrote: He stated he would like Verizon to have a hackable smartphone. Verizon uses CDMA making it incompatible with the Openmoko. See this page for details. [edit] @PirateHead: It also may not be what you want, but you can get Android running on Verizon's HTC Touch by following this link. | |
whether it uses CDMA or not was not even a point in the discussion until it was brought up 'out of the blue' with no notable relation to PH's post. he didn't say "i can't wait until Verizon comes out with a CDMA-capable hackable smart phone". so the comment made little sense.
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digitalmouse wrote:
whether it uses CDMA or not was not even a point in the discussion until it was brought up 'out of the blue' with no notable relation to PH's post. he didn't say "i can't wait until Verizon comes out with a CDMA-capable hackable smart phone". so the comment made little sense. It is related to PirateHead's post because Verizon is a CDMA only carrier that doesn't support GSM*. Why bring up a GSM phone when his carrier only supports CDMA? He was specifically asking for a Verizon hackable smartphone, and if you goto the Openmoko wiki link I posted, you can see that it 100% does not work on Verizon (there's even comments at the bottom asking for support sometime in the future). GSM phones will not work on Verizon unless they have a CDMA band too. I guess I should have been more specific in my initial post. The main point of this is your link to Openmoko was in no way helpful to him unless you were trying to get him to switch carriers to T-Mobile/AT&T. *A few select phones have GSM for world-wide coverage such as the Blackberry Storm. These phones also have CDMA on them though because that's what they need to work on Verizon, not Vodafone or whoever else they have an agreement with for overseas. The GSM part is not the part working on Verizon, it's the CDMA part. Without the CDMA band the phone would only work on AT&T/T-Mobile in the USA (I have no idea who the GSM carriers in other countries are). [edit] I know Wikipedia is a horrible source, but here it talks about Verizon being one of the two major CDMA carriers in the US. | |
since it is possible to switch carriers and still retain the same mobile phone number, albeit with a delay of a week or so, it makes sense to go with what you want as opposed to what is only available.
the Neo Freerunner is a decent penquin-thumper-based hackable smart phone, so it should fall under what PH wants, regardless of carrier. the only issue is available cell coverage, as GSM is not quite everywhere yet. | |
Actually, most people in the US are stuck under very restrictive contracts, so moving to a new carrier is not always easy. Also, very often coverage of some carriers is very poor in some areas, it's quite possible that the only carrier that covers his area is CDMA(this goes both ways, however, often GSM people get signal when I don't). I don't know how often you visit the US, but we have horrible cell phone carriers, that do their best to thwart the user from using their cell phone, while convincing them they can do anything with it.
Also, the number portability now often works in a matter of hours. They've really got that down to a science now. It's been a while since I've moved my number, but last time I did it took about 3 hours. | |
Danial.Beta wrote:
It must be. I think the Pre is an extremely sexy phone with a very sexy OS(from what I hear, it functions as smooth as it looks in the demos shown). The iPhone has a visual consistency going for it, but besides that it doesn't look that pretty or functional to me(I've never owned one, just looked at other people's). Having played on my girlfriend's iPhone, it's not bad (besides the fact it had to be jailbroken to do things such as take it off an AT&T network and to allow video recording, etc.). The sleek design of the Pre with the hide away keyboard appeals to both my want for a physical keyboard and a nice touch screen. If I based a decision on that idea, I'd go with the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1, which I think is very well designed. Was actually planning on getting that until SE announced the Idou in February. The problems with the X1, from what I've read, fall under such things as a slow UI (which may have been fixed in a firmware upgrade since I stopped checking), and a certain batch of models which suffered paint chipping and broken stylus holders (well, and the Windows Mobile OS). As it is, I own a BlackBerry, and it's functional for what it was made to do(although third party apps tend be really poor quality visually, and usually functionality wise), but it's quite ugly, slow, and a pain to navigate. I'll take it over a razr any day, but still not exactly my cup of tea. The battery life, however, is awesome. I agree that Blackberry's are ugly; I've never had one but I've used a friend's, not what I want out of a phone. I'll stick with my K550i till the Idou (under whatever name) comes out later this year. :] | |
I'm gonna have to disagree. I'm on AT&T, as is my gf, her family, my family...and we can call each other without using any minutes. I would really like an Android phone, but I wasn't going to switch to T-mobile for it.
(Note, I realize you can use the G1 on the edge network for AT&T, but I had just gotten a blackberry pearl, so I figured I'd stick with it for a while. The point being, I am not going to switch from AT&T for a phone because there are other factors involved.) | |