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I am sick of kages on naruto games basically being GMs, the abuse their powers, witch is why i am not making this so on my game. But what powers should kages have?

btw they are not getting Edit...ever...
Kages were leaders of the villages on Naurto and they did bascially make up the rules, ban jutsu and assign missions.
I honestly think that Kages should be the GM staff and that players should not be able to achive that status.
In response to Revenant Jesus
Why not? When me and a couple other people were developing our Naruto game we figured that it would be feasible for the players to be Kages without ruining the game. They would basically have the same "powers" that you just mentioned. They basically would own the village. Some villages would have an oligarchy system set up with players filling those roles too.
Hmmm, well I don't watch Naruto a lot and I played the Naruto games on BYOND so here are my idea for kages.

-Create NPCs to guard village(Limited Amount and costs Yen)
-Jail Village Members
-Promote Rank
-Assaign Special Missions
-Recruit People into village from other villages
-Make Village wars
-Lose their rank if they lose 1 on 1 fight(Similar to how Naruto Cron had it)
-Learn Special Jitsus
-ASSAIGN VILLAGE JITSUS
-Have a cool looking "Kage" word over charecter
-Get a funny looking hat
In response to Kalzar
Kalzar wrote:
Why not? When me and a couple other people were developing our Naruto game we figured that it would be feasible for the players to be Kages without ruining the game. They would basically have the same "powers" that you just mentioned. They basically would own the village. Some villages would have an oligarchy system set up with players filling those roles too.

Because in a game like this, people are basically competing with one another. The last Naruto game I logged into, I was killed as soon as I logged in, and almost everyone was doing the same thing. I highly doubt a Kage should act in such a manner.

When you get right down to it, it takes a very strong, mature, leader to be a Kage for a village and it simply doesn't happen all that often, besides as far as I know, there can only be one per village.

Not only does that seem a little unfair to some players, but I know if I was a player in a game, and some kid just leveled up to Kage status and suddenly got all sorts of moderating powers, I wouldn't listen to him at all.

The main role of the Kage in the game should be to assign missions, more like a Quest NPC, I don't see any reason at all for anyone to need to have that title. I really think it is ridiculous. No players should have the power a Kage would and even if they did, I wouldn't want to have to wait on one to log in just so I could get a mission.

I highly suggest you just forget the entire Kage thing. If you HAVE to have someone with Kage title in your game, assign a GM to each village and make them Kage.
In response to Poal
Poal wrote:
Hmmm, well I don't watch Naruto a lot and I played the Naruto games on BYOND so here are my idea for kages.

-Create NPCs to guard village(Limited Amount and costs Yen)
That first one isn't a bad idea actually.
-Jail Village Members
Bad idea. Players can be jack asses and abuse power, just like any GM could do. I don't think any player should have that ability, it should be left up to the staff.
-Promote Rank
Bad idea, players are either going to have to wait until a Kage logs in, or deal with a player that is in a bitchy attitude.
-Assaign Special Missions
Bad idea, see above.
-Recruit People into village from other villages
People can't just leave a village, they are considered traitors and would be killed.
-Make Village wars
Players do that pretty much on their own anyways.
-Lose their rank if they lose 1 on 1 fight(Similar to how Naruto Cron had it)
That doesn't seem fair. In Naruto a village fought together. If a person tried to take position of Kage, they would be in big trouble for it, even if they did kill the Kage, there is a huge chance the village would fight the murderer all the way.
In response to Revenant Jesus
Revenant Jesus wrote:
Poal wrote:
Hmmm, well I don't watch Naruto a lot and I played the Naruto games on BYOND so here are my idea for kages.

-Create NPCs to guard village(Limited Amount and costs Yen)
That first one isn't a bad idea actually.
-Jail Village Members
Bad idea. Players can be jack asses and abuse power, just like any GM could do. I don't think any player should have that ability, it should be left up to the staff.
True, abusing power is common and bad. Dont add that.
-Promote Rank
Bad idea, players are either going to have to wait until a Kage logs in, or deal with a player that is in a bitchy attitude.
Also true, but for this I ment if they have requirements, like level 40 or something.
-Assaign Special Missions
Bad idea, see above.
-Recruit People into village from other villages
People can't just leave a village, they are considered traitors and would be killed.
Well I played Naruto games and I think you should be able to switch and join villages, even if you are a rouge ninja, it gets boring being everyone's enemy and I think you should have a right to join a village.
-Make Village wars
Players do that pretty much on their own anyways.
Yup, but make it like official and if a village wins like everyone in that village gets...10,000yen?
-Lose their rank if they lose 1 on 1 fight(Similar to how Naruto Cron had it)
That doesn't seem fair. In Naruto a village fought together. If a person tried to take position of Kage, they would be in big trouble for it, even if they did kill the Kage, there is a huge chance the village would fight the murderer all the way.
Well to that, all I have to say is, it's unfair for 1 person to be kage forever and sometimes you must bend the rule book(Naruto Anime/Manga) to make something enjoyable.
well chances are when ure game comes out your gonna get spam with is there a kage spot open is there a kage spot open becasue basically all they want is verbs to rule over other people.You might wanna get some people that you really know and care about the game that would actually do something for the village keep it organize and such.
As for what verbs to have well i think Kages should be able to host chunin exams for once.Other is the ability to choose hire people to jobs such as for Anbus,Police,Genin Teachers,and Jounin seansais,the ability to use a jutsu that can only be used by them such as the ability to turn sand into iron like the kazakage or the ability to creat a forest like the first hokage.Perhaps a creat verb so they can creat buildings for their village and help build it that way they dont just stand around ordering people but actually do something for the village.Thats all i can think of i hope any of these helps
I don't know if you've noticed, but during parts of Naruto the Kage's of the a village usually hold a council meeting before making big decisions. This means that the Kage of a Village is surely the most POWERFUL in the village, but that he does not have absolute power over everything in the village. I mean...have you seen the paperwork they go through to do anything?

A Kage is a leader. A LEADER. Not an absolute tyrant that does as he pleases. He is kept in check by the council, and even then it's not often the power is used openly. A Kage is not a GM that governs the game, just his village. Another thing...really all a leader should do is make his village prosper and keep peace in his country/village.

However, a "make guard" verb is just silly. If it is used in excess then a village can technically never fall and that is no fun. Guards should be players. No players, no guards.

Kage's should not have any form of real power. There should be no instant verb for something to happen, any motion should take time to process. If a village cannot afford war, then it cannot wage it!

Here's what a Kage should be able to do:
1: Declare a state of war. Now, this means anyone not from the country/village can be openly attacked by the denizens of that country. ie, while in the Fire Country, anyone not from that country can be attacked by those inside of the country.
2: Build houses and structures for the village itself. Make it a friggen village! Let the Kage give the village walls and doors (at the cost of money).
3: Make peace. Ordinarily you could just attack anyone outside of your country yes? Well a Kage should be able to make players from certain countries unable to attack eachother by making peace.
4: Order the village. Tell them what to do! A Kage is a leader and should be able to recieve help from his villagers to aid the village itself.

That's about it.
In response to Evil-Inuyasha
No one is going to want to be bossed around by another perosn on a BYOND game, that is the whole point. Kage should be a class not achievable. The ONLY reason why these games even use it, is because there is a lack of anything useful to do in their game to begin with.
In response to Revenant Jesus
You're right, nobody really should be a Kage. BUT, I'm taking into consideration how a person COULD be Kage and be one rather properly. I myself wouldn't mind being bossed around so long as that person knew what the hell he was doing. It can add an element to gameplay other than having your leader be an NPC.