Feb 12 2007, 2:55 am
In response to Nishiatsu
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XzDoG
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Theres no point in upgrading to an OS thats already going to be out-dated in 2 years by "Vienna". Yes, engadget.com reports microsoft is already working on a new OS and plans to release it in 2 years.
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Xx Dark Wizard xX wrote:
I hvae XP X64 and I want to get vista ultimate (OEM). I just made 280 dollars for helping my neighbor move and am thinking about buying vista. I have a gig of ddr2800 ram a 2.4 ghz core2 and a 7300GS GFX card with 256 ram. Is it worth it? Will DRM prevent me from getting music and programs? Speaking as someone who prefers Windows over any other OS, I bring you the answer known to all Windows users everywhere: No. Duh! The cardinal rule of Microsoft OSes is that you do not upgrade within the first year of their release. The first or second service pack upgrade is invariably far superior to the original, which tends to be buggy and have major compatibility problems. And of course there are exceptions like Windows ME, which suck from the moment they're conceived and never improve appreciably. So far Vista is shaping up to be exactly that bad. In Vista's case, you should up that limit to 2-3 years. Clearly Microsoft's love affair with DRM has crippled the OS to the point where it has great difficulty displaying legal DVDs and the like, thanks to the idiotic and mostly broken HDCP standard. (This is also much of the reason the PS3 sucks.) Vista is also a known memory hog, proportionally far worse than any other Windows OS upgrades I've heard about in the past--which is pretty bad. Vista might have some good features, but clearly the bad far outweigh them. Considering even the thick-skulled music industry is starting to back down from DRM, though, I wouldn't be too surprised if a long-overdue backlash starts strangling DRM and therefore leads to Microsoft rolling back some of this overzealous garbage. Lummox JR | |
XzDoG wrote:
Yes, engadget.com reports microsoft is already working on a new OS and plans to release it in 2 years. You don't actually believe that, right? Vista was originally supposed to come out in 2003, 2 years after XP. | |
Lummox JR wrote:
Clearly Microsoft's love affair with DRM has crippled the OS to the point where it has great difficulty displaying legal DVDs and the like, Yep. A bug appears for MS Office. Days, weeks, and then month(s?) pass, and yet still no fix. But when there's a small flaw in Windows Media Player, that allows DRM on songs to be bypassed if you download this third-party program, fixed and pushed onto windows update the next day. | |
I, like many others, do not believe that you should be charged based on how many times or how long you will use the product. You should get what you pay for.
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Lummox JR wrote:
Considering even the thick-skulled music industry is starting to back down from DRM I hope so; I do wonder if Steve Jobs speaking up against DRM will have any effect or not. | |
XzDoG wrote:
Theres no point in upgrading to an OS thats already going to be out-dated in 2 years by "Vienna". Yes, engadget.com reports microsoft is already working on a new OS and plans to release it in 2 years. Vienna will probably come out in 2011, the next release of windows is called fiji. | |
Xx Dark Wizard xX wrote:
Vienna will probably come out in 2011, the next release of windows is called fiji. didn't Fiji have like two military coups? | |
Xx Dark Wizard xX wrote:
Vienna will probably come out in 2011, the next release of windows is called fiji. Ah, another example of how half-assed America is at naming stuff. You should see the english names for the new Pokemon games. (Diamond/Pearl you know) | |
Thats even more half-assed.
Let me guess, Vienna is a quarter of the stuff they wanted to add, and Fiji the rest? 'Hey f***tards! Collect the whole set! The copies with Bill Gate's signature on will be worth more in 10 years!" Hah. I would bet they are worth less because of it, really. Get a cheap person to do something and you get cheap results. | |
Vienna is supposed to totally change the way we intyeract with computers. It is supposed to be completely different than any other release of windows.
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Xx Dark Wizard xX wrote:
Vienna is supposed to totally change the way we intyeract with computers. It is supposed to be completely different than any other release of windows. Microsoft and Nintendo double-teaming Sony, anyone? | |
Yeah right. They'd be stepping in with the GNU/Linux crowd: offering an alien system to users who dislike change. It's tough enough to get computer-savvy people to change to a better operating system that changes the way they interact with their computer -- try to get run-of-the-mill users to do it, and you're setting yourself up for failure.
The future is in refinement of the current interfaces and ideas, not in totally revolutionary crap. There is still a LOT of work to do when it comes to building intuitive and consistent human interfaces. | |
Xx Dark Wizard xX wrote:
Vienna will probably come out in 2011, the next release of windows is called fiji. No, thats the SERVICE PACK for Vista. | |
All the sources I've read about the subject don't seem sure exactly *what* Fiji is. Apparantly it's coming out in 2008-2009 (with Vienna coming out in 2011)... to me that would seem to imply it would be a service pack, but it could be anything.
Maybe it's something entirely specialised for certain types of PCs? | |
PirateHead wrote:
Yeah right. Actually no, I read the same sort of thing somewhere else- MS said it is going to revolutionise things, and totally change the way we view computers- and ourselves. That's right, they're removing the Start menu. | |
Elation wrote:
Actually no, I read the same sort of thing somewhere else- MS said it is going to revolutionise things, and totally change the way we view computers- and ourselves. That's right, they're removing the Start menu. And probably adding a "Wharf" to replace it. No, a Wharf has absolutely nothing to do with a Dock. Why do you ask? | |