In response to Elation
Because we are idjits! I don't understand why we don't either. Too bad the actually intelligent USA citizens don't have any power..
In response to Artekia
Mmmmm, anyway, I've taken this far too offtopic, and it looked like it was about to get flamey.
(also I had run out of the few points I started off with. Ack.)

Sorry guys.
In response to Artekia
Actually, they US has several things like this. Like I said earlier, I agree the Bush administration has done a crappy job in office. Thats why I didn't vote for them. A good amount of the pollution help is done at the state level, and not all of the states do it. Perhaps that is why it is overlooked? I know for fact in Michagin it is illegal to throw away cans and you are limited on monthly water use.
In response to Elation
All we need to do is find a way of making a warp drive. And shielding ourselves from cosmic rays. And then watch out, galaxy! =)

I'm not saying it'll happen soon... like, within our lifetimes... but I think it'll happen one day. That is, if we don't nuke ourselves into oblivion or get hit by an asteroid first.
In response to Elation
Elation wrote:

(the rest of the world has signed up to Kyoto)

Sir, With respect, I must pick on you again, for the second time in a day.

India, with over 1 billion people, has signed the kyoto agreement, but as a third world country, actually have no emission control responsibilities. It cost them nothing to sign.

China also signed the kyoto agreement, and like India, is not required to make any effort to reduce pollution. They also have over 1 billion citizens.

Russia, with 150 million people, half as many as america, with far less strict pollution controls, will not ratify the kyoto agreement. Prominent Russian scientists feel that global warming will benefit Russia. There is a place in the north sea where the soviet union used to drag leaking and defective nuclear reactors and sink them. The Russian federation lacks the money to clean that mess up.

Indonesia, fourth largest population of the world, america is third, has just under 240 million people. They have not ratified the kyoto agreement as of 2004.

Brazil, with 180+ million people, has signed, but not ratified the kyoto agreement.

Bangladesh, with 140 million, has, yes, you got it, not ratified the kyoto accord.

Japan, whos city the Kyoto accord took its name, is the ninth largest population in the world, and the only one of the Top ten population countries in the world, who has both signed and ratified the kyoto agreement.

Total population of the top ten countries is 3 658 000 000 or roughly, 3.5 billion people. of those 3.5 billion people, only japan, with about 126,771,662 people have agreed to be bound by kyoto. America, while being the largest polluter PER CAPITA, is only 12% of that group, and about 6% of the world.

In short, The rest of the world has NOT signed up. Much of the rest world other than these top ten are small economically unimportant countries, which heat with oil, coal and wood. Because they are mostly third world, they are not required to abide by Kyoto, even if they sign and ratify.

So unless the per capita US polution is 4 times greater than the per capita of india, STOP PICKING on the Americans!
In response to ThreeFingerPete
Well there you go then, the Americans should give lots of money to India and China to stop their emission problems.

;)

(Maybe I'm just annoyed at America's frankly shocking first offer to the flo...sorry.)
In response to Elation
Heh it takes 7 years to get to Saturn..Who would want to be on a ship that long? I would go crazy..heh
In response to Dession
Dess, you could set yourself a challenge:

7 years to create THE ULTIMATE ZETA RIP.
I say a few more quake's like this, and Earth's inhabitants are doomed.

Nah. Over the course of human history there have been tons of quakes and tsunamis like this. I certainly don't want to trivialize the misery of the people who've lived through this latest disaster -- but in global terms, it isn't anything new, and it won't stop humanity from achieving better things.
In response to Crispy
actually it's highly unlikely that we'll die from nukes... We'll probably die from polution, and killing eachother over gas once world supplies run low on it :P

Actually have you ever looked into anti-matter propulsion? Space travel isn't that far away, they've got other propulsion methods that would be extremely efficient and fast assuming we can learn how to make them...

Of course in theory an anti-matter bomb would probably be created eventually if we ever learned how to make anti-matter in large quantities... and they predict an anti-matter bomb the size of our current nuclear war heads would destroy about 1/3 of the world... but that's a risk we can take.

but still, space travel is within our lifetime. Not to saturns moon Titan, but to mars at least.
In response to Elation
wait omg they have zeta rips in the space shuttle!!111 wheer cna i sign up!?/// PLZ tel me!1 thanx
In response to Dession
ya you'd have to fill the space ship with about a dozen extremely gorgeous babes who are all bent on pleasing you. That, suicide pills in case we run out of food, and video games. I could do it then. :)
In response to SSJ2GohanDBGT
Not me I'd turn the heaters on full and eat my roomates very slowly to stay alive.
In response to Teh Governator
like human beings haven't done worst, and you don't see people freaking out about the fact human beings still exist.

Who knows, maybe a few people dieing isn't such a bad thing... since all the other arguements have covered all we do is polute and spoil ourselves with the death of other animals and creations in life?
In response to Jon Snow
Jon Snow wrote:
like human beings haven't done worst, and you don't see people freaking out about the fact human beings still exist.

Who knows, maybe a few people dieing isn't such a bad thing... since all the other arguements have covered all we do is polute and spoil ourselves with the death of other animals and creations in life?


Yeah, but I feel as if the wrong people got killed. Indonesian Subsistence fishermen never hurt anyone.
In response to Crispy
Don't forget the teleporters, That go faster then the speed of light. Yea ok human teleportation would not be cool this way being destroyed and all...but for food and stuff :P

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/06/17/ aust.startrek/
In response to Teh Governator
Isn't that whee earthquakes tend to happen, you know, on a fault line or edge of a continental plate? They need a reason for existence. But I don't think it could produce the sort of effect you're discussing.
In response to Elation
Elation wrote:
Well there you go then, the Americans should give lots of money to India and China to stop their emission problems.

;)

(Maybe I'm just annoyed at America's frankly shocking first offer to the flo...sorry.)

Sorry to go Off-Topic here but, that's just ridiculous. You may not know this - but, America IS in debt. Mainly from wars started in England nearly 100 years ago. Tht's right, the first & second world wars. France, Britain, and a bunch of our allies still owe us BILLIONS of dollars from wars decades ago. That, and have you ever thought that maybe the US has its OWN natural disasters to take care of here at home? Like, for instance - our floodings in many states, the mud slides, our own earthquakes, hurricanes, etc...

And, a note on that last one - about hurricanes. You may be saying, "hurricane season's over there I thought?". Well, for the East Coast it is but, here in Florida (where I live) there's still thousands of houses destroyed or without roofs and amongst other things - why didn't the world donate money to OUR natural disasters?
In response to Jon Snow
Jon Snow wrote:
actually it's highly unlikely that we'll die from nukes... We'll probably die from polution, and killing eachother over gas once world supplies run low on it :P

Actually have you ever looked into anti-matter propulsion? Space travel isn't that far away, they've got other propulsion methods that would be extremely efficient and fast assuming we can learn how to make them...

Of course in theory an anti-matter bomb would probably be created eventually if we ever learned how to make anti-matter in large quantities... and they predict an anti-matter bomb the size of our current nuclear war heads would destroy about 1/3 of the world... but that's a risk we can take.

but still, space travel is within our lifetime. Not to saturns moon Titan, but to mars at least.

Guess what, a prode has reached Saturns's Moon (Titan), just recently.

~Sav
In response to Saveon
I think he was speaking of manned missions...
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