In response to GokuDBZ3128
No one seems to even understand that you need an inner pain so difficult to deal with that you would be depressed. You can't just Cut yourself and say "Oh, wow, i didn't notice how good that feels.".

You don't have any reason to be like this, but you seem to choose to. Sarcasim doesn't help the topic. So please try to atleast stay serious about a topic such as this.
In response to Hedgemistress
How about you go cut yourself, the only thing you're good for is arguing and pissing people off.

No man will put up with that, oh wait, no wonder.

:P
In response to JordanUl
Who said I was angry? I never said I was angry.

What is everyones problem?
In response to Kusanagi
Kusanagi wrote:
Kagayaku Kami wrote:
First, just to let you're little undeveloped brain know, anyone that thinks they're "Goth" and ravagly listen to "Emo" at the same time shouldn't be alive. Emo is for the preppy girls, and gays. :P

BTW: I think you should pick up a book and stop trying to be cool on the internet.

I think it would be best to not insult someone for having a conception that you believe is false, especially when you come out with an even worse one which I know people would find more offensive than the one you insulted someone over.


Well, everyone else shouldn't insult us for out conceptions and their mis-belief.
In response to Covering Fire
Most people that have a serious problem like this don't do it for attention. Everyone is different, and do it for different reasons. No one person has the same symptoms in their depression as another.
In response to Kagayaku Kami
How about you go cut yourself, the only thing you're good for is arguing and pissing people off.

GASP! SPUTTER! You wouldn't say that if you'd ever cut yourself! You're clearly a poser and a wannabe and a doody head and a....

Wow... it feels dirty, being you.
In response to Kagayaku Kami
Most people that have a serious problem like this don't do it for attention. Everyone is different, and do it for different reasons. No one person has the same symptoms in their depression as another.

Really?

So where do you or anybody else get off talking about it? You've never done it the same way or for the same reasons as anybody else, so how can you speak for them? By your own words, you have only as much in common with any cutter or depression victim as anybody else does... so why talk about it?

Oh, that's right... because you're only good for pissing people off. You shouldn't project your faults onto other people, by the way... it's not healthy.
In response to Hedgemistress
I'm just answering simple questions from experience.

I did it, and I had friends that did it.

Not only that, i've talked to a lot of people that have done it in the past, and are currently doing it. I know how to deal with depression and people that are depressed.

Quit flaming me and go away.
In response to Hedgemistress
Nope, i've done it all, even on top and under my thighs.
In response to Kagayaku Kami
I'm not flaming you... flaming is what you did to me instead of answering my points.

What don't you understand? You DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE. You have none. Zero. Like you said, no two depressed people are alike. You don't know what anyone else went through. You're forced to rely on judgement, like everyone else... and if anything, your own experience is going to bias you.

Maybe someone else needs tough love. Maybe they're the sort of person who just needs to be slapped out of it... and you would kill them. You would be responsible for their death if you had your way, because nobody would be allowed to look at the situation and give them what they need. Can you say nobody who's depressed is like that, just because YOU weren't? You're going to sit here arguing that you're the expert and meanwhile you're using your "knowledge" as an excuse not to think. You "know" what depression is like, and so you never think about it.
In response to Hedgemistress
You don't even know me and you're saying I have "NO EXPERIENCE IN ANYTHING AT ALL".

Secondly, no i wouldn't kill them, I would help them. I don't tell them to cut themselves, if thats what you assumed.

I help people get through their problems as best I can; Not kill them.

Not only that, i'm not even the bad person on this topic, so go bother someone else. I'm agreeing with the Positive percentage on this post, unlike all of the others just insulting the people who do it, who are goths, and so forth.

GET OFF MY BACK.
In response to Kagayaku Kami
Cut themselves. They die. Burn. The end no worries!

--Goz
In response to Goz
See, anyone that says something like this is the person that needs to cut themselves and actually Successfully commit suicide with it. You're very rude Goz, not even giving consideration for the life of another human being, then you should die with nothing more then a swarm of insects.
In response to Kagayaku Kami
In response to Kagayaku Kami
You don't even know me and you're saying I have "NO EXPERIENCE IN ANYTHING AT ALL".

You don't get it... you so completely don't get it. I'm going to try to explain it to you anyway, because I am a nice person and an eternal optimist and I continue to believe against all evidence that you do have the capacity to get it.

Yes, I said you don't have any experience at all. Why did I say this? Because you think you can't know how to help anybody (or talk about them) unless you know what they've been through... and by your own words, you don't know what anybody's been through. Nobody does!

If you ask me, I'd say you have experience at lots of things just by being alive... but by YOUR OWN STANDARD of "You have to been through it yourself!", you have no experience, because nobody has ever been through the same thing as anybody else.

You've never been depressed the same way as anybody else has, so by your standard you are not qualified to speak.

Secondly, no i wouldn't kill them, I would help them. I don't tell them to cut themselves, if thats what you assumed.

No, I didn't assume that. Did you even read what I said? You clearly didn't. I said that if somebody needs a little tough love, if they need somebody to basically snap them out of it, you would kill them by stopping them from getting the help that THEY need. Not the help you would need in their situation, but the help they really need.

Because you arrogantly assume "Since I'm depressed, I know what works and what doesn't! I know what's best for everybody!", you would kill a large number of depressed people if you got to choose how they were treated.



Not only that, i'm not even the bad person on this topic, so go bother someone else.

You're insulting the hell out of everybody and advocating a very unhealthy outlook whereby all depressed people are treated like they're clones of you. You are the villain.
In response to Kagayaku Kami
That doesn't make it right for you to insult a group not even forementioned in a burst of defense. If I wasn't a reasonable person I'd be more than happy to label "your group" with the conception that most people in it are hypocrites based upon your statement.
In response to digitalmouse
you have never really ment someone that hasent done this just for attention have you?

She told 1 person, me. I listed over 15 other different ways she could take anger and she tried them but they didnt work.
In response to Covering Fire
Sarcasm? Where in that paragraph was there sarcasm? I did not say anything that was false. I cut myself while cutting a bagel, and it stung. Okay? So, where's the sarcasm in that.

Oh, and I know it is a mental disorder. But you asked if anyone had cut themselves, if they knew what it felt like, and if we would ever do it. And, simply, I told you. So, my paragraph has nothing wrong with it. I answered your questions.
In response to Covering Fire
Actualy, I know lots of goths, some I like, and some I don't. I cannot stand the goths that act like I discribed. But I try not to look down on anyone, reguardless of thier outfit and whatnot. As for you(or maybie someone else said it) saying that being happy and expecting everyone else to is just something people who have never eperience true pain do, well, you are wrong. I have lived a life that I would wish on no man, not even my worst enemey. Yet, nomatter how I look at it, I do not feel like killing myself, cutting myself, or raging agenst the world. Why? Because that is life, it does suck, a lot, deal with it. "Suicide is a mans way of telling God 'You can't fire me, I quit!" That is a little quote that comes to mind, and I make it a point to try not to quit. Life isn't fair, and if you can't deal with it without cutting yourself, or killing yourself, you need to be in the crazy-ward at your local hostpital.
To tell you the truth, nobody cares about your life on the internet.
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