Jul 4 2004, 9:55 pm
In response to Kusanagi
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Stealth 2k
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Cars like a 1967 Impala will almost never lose its value. Cars like that are classics and will only go up in value if you take care of them. People wil pay good money even for a body of a car like the 67' Impala. I wouldn't call them daily drivers but I like cars around that era a lot more then current ones. Safe or not safe
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Stealth 2k wrote:
Cars like a 1967 Impala will almost never lose its value. Cars like that are classics and will only go up in value if you take care of them. People wil pay good money even for a body of a car like the 67' Impala. I wouldn't call them daily drivers but I like cars around that era a lot more then current ones. Safe or not safe I use mine as a daily driver. Sure, it may not be THE best on gas mileage, but...it's better than some newer cars and trucks. And, just the attention I get alone with the top down is pretty cool. I get about 6-7 offers each time I go for a drive around town. Here's some pictures of a car that's identical to mine: http://www.impalass427.com/websmall/67ss427rear.jpg http://www.impalass427.com/websmall/red67ss427.jpg http://www.impalass427.com/websmall/67ss427side.jpg P.S. the odometer only has about 20,000 orginial miles on it with the original transmission and engine block. | |
Kunark wrote:
Who on earth has the equipment for that other than car companies? People who have time and investors on their side. There are hundreds if not thousands of kit-car manufactuers that make (or made) good money doing conversions (like the old FireAero, Magnum, Kelmark GT (Ferrari Dino on a VW chassis), etc.), as well as companies *and* individuals that build/built their own machines from the ground up. Many of these vehicle designs turn out to be better in some aspect than what the big companies produce in cookie-cutter fashion. And even a few get bought by the big guys to be incorporated later into future models. It's also the small guys, universites, and private builders that often do good work in alternative fuel vehicle designs- something that we will eventually need. | |
My uncle has an SS 66 Impala hardtop. Needing restored but has been offered 4k just for the body. He has turned them down though.
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You forgot to mention the fact that cars were going slower as well. Speed limits keep increasing over the years. Here in NY it has gone up 20 MPH in a few decades.
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Loduwijk wrote:
You forgot to mention the fact that cars were going slower as well. I wouldn't say they were slower back then. Because, really...can you call a car that outputs over 500 hp and 400 lbs of low end torque when it rolled of the assembly line, "slow"? Any one of those cars back then could beat anything that rolled off the line today, with no exception to Ferrari, BMW, Porsche, or Mercedes...the ONLY cars of today that could maybe go faster would have to be pro-built super cars that aren't even street legal. But, if you're just talking about the limits of the roads...even still, if people have fast cars, they aren't going to really obey that limit if they don't have to (ie: not much traffic, and no cops in sight). Because, I know for a fact those older cars could easily top over 180 with the correct adjustments to the rear end differentials and the converter. I my self with only a 327 chevy small block with roughly 310 hp with one wheel drive 3,900 lbs car can get up to 155 no problems. | |
It sickens me that people actually care enough about that to be disgusted by it.
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Well, mainly because, they're taking jobs away from us, and then those same companies are selling those vehicles we should've been making for the same price they would've sold if we had made them. So, it's more money in their pocket, and it destroys our economy.
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What is *really* disgusting is this:
Teh Governator wrote: Well, mainly because, they're taking jobs away from us... Not true at all: "Now with three auto plants in America, Honda was the first Japanese automaker to produce automobiles in the United States --- beginning with an auto plant near Marysville, Ohio, where production of Honda Accords began on Nov. 1 1982. Today, the Marysville Auto Plant manufactures the Accord Sedan and Coupe models, and the Acura TL on two assembly lines using domestic and globally sourced parts. The Marysville plant was followed in 1989 by an auto plant in nearby East Liberty, Ohio, that produces the Honda Civic Sedan and Coupe models, and the Element light-duty truck. In 2001, Honda's auto plant near Lincoln, Ala., joined the two Ohio plants with production of the Honda Odyssey minivan. Production capacity of the three auto plants is 830,000 cars and light- trucks per year. A second line will go into production at the Alabama plant this spring, increasing Honda's U.S. auto production capacity to 980,000 units per year. Honda also builds more than 1.25 million auto engines per year at plants in Anna, Ohio, and at the Alabama plant -- and 1 million automatic transmissions annually at a plant in Russells Point, Ohio. With additional auto plants in Alliston, Ontario, Canada, and El Salto, Mexico, Honda's current total North American automobile capacity is 1.25 million cars and light-trucks per year. In Ohio, the Marysville Auto plant has produced more than 7.2 million cars on 2 production lines, with another 2.5 million from one line at the East Liberty plant. The new Alabama plant has produced more than 266,000 Odysseys..." "...Working in partnership with hundreds of suppliers in the U.S. and North America, they have proven that American workers can compete in the global automobile industry..." So most likely any Honda bought in the U.S. after 1984 (giving the plants ample time to ramp up to high production speeds), was built in U.S. plants by U.S. workers. This also goes for Honda motorcycles since around 1979-80. Your nonsense about taking jobs away is proof you should catch up on current events *before* inserting your foot in your mouth. (source: http://world.honda.com/news/2003/c031125.html - google.com is your friend ) | |
Ok, if you say so...because, I know my chevy was designed by an american, put together by an american, for an american. And, all its parts were processed and made in America. And, with that said...building two plants in our backyard doesn't make them any less of an import. It'd be like Ford, Chevy or Chrysler putting a plant over in Japan and calling themselves a Japanese product.
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Does it really matter WHERE it comes from? Nobody who or where it is built, people and their families recieve jobs in order to pay for their food and rent. The important thing is a) the workers are treated well, and b) the product is inexpensive and of high quality. Anything else, such as the nationality of the producer, is irrelevant in a globalized world.
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Problem is, many people in america don't even know that certain cars are japanese. Back in high school we were discussing this topic (increased sales of japanese cars and declining american car sales) and the teacher mentioned nissan and toyota as some examples of japanese cars. A number of people commented saying things like, "Nissan? I didn't know thats japanese." Some education were givin here isn't it? Anyway I've been boycotting japanese cars and i still will (not that i have anything against japan, i love japan, just hate their cars). As for me, I want the new Chrysler Crossfire or their 300 class. Check the pics and features out here!</a href>. Also it was mentioned earlier about the price of new cars, well the price on a new (2005) chrysler ranges between $29-49K but the slightly older models are very decent, too. Ever since Chrysler merged (or was bought, not sure) with Daimler theyve been doing pretty good but daimler (Mercedes) has lost value in germany and is being beat by BMW now.
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Ya, it's good that they're helping out families with jobs and such, but, it's hurting many others jobs as well. There's many other things besides the manufacturing plants that it's hurting. The raw materials needed to make those cars are barely being made domestic anymore. All of the large steel corporations, electronics manufacturing and many other large companies that make the components to build those cars are all moving over to third world countries, cutting their costs by many folds over, while charging the same prices to us. I'm not a big fan of exporting domestic jobs to over seas, never have, never will.
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Kunark wrote:
Who on earth has the equipment for that other than car companies? Fabrication shops. And if I remember correctly, there are many do-it-yourself car kits available. Most of course are for older model cars (50's -- 60's) and are fiberglass bodies. True, it wont be hard to do the interier, since many places sell stuff like that. . . Of course -- and then you have the internet -- you can buy ANYTHING online if you know where to look. ...but there is no way you'd be able to make the body without buying another car. . . Not true, as I stated above. Also, you can buy sheets of aluminum and other materials through distributors, and than mold them to meet your needs. ...you'd have to replace all of the other systems (not to mention you'd have to be a professional welder.), and build it machine-perfectly so it would work like a charm. You wouldn't neccesarily needs to be a proffesional anything to succede in a project such as this, it would just require a great deal of paitants and study. I'd rather bike for 5 years and save up for the $50,000 car. Or you could do what most self sufficant teens do, and buy that junker car from across the way... *drives an 84 Ferd Tempo* Gets me from point A to B, all that matters ~Cryptic | |
Car companies make their parts through molds to save money and time, but that is because they mass produce.
with very basic tools, a fairly steady hand and the right education, you could make every single part in a car right down to each and every individual piece of the pistons inside the engine. This is incredibly time consuming though, it is best to just buy old but working parts of cars from scrap yards. The first car was made without the use of machinery, the process can be duplicated. Around my area alone are people who make their own go karts. the only thing they dont make are the engines, they use lawnmower engines or some other low-end junk. It wasnt too long ago in the news that a man literally went to work and turned a construction vehicle into a tank and went nuts tearing property apart, similar to the drunk ex military nut who stole a tank, but this guy made a tank working alone part time for 3 years. even with a construction vehicle, after putting that much armor on it, you would have to heavily modify the engine itself. The guy may have been a nut but he knew what he was doing. | |
Perhaps, but that has little to do with cars and their creation locations. If the materials are coming from elsewhere that is another topic entirely and has little to nothing to do with cars.
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Well I guess it wouldn't be too hard to make most of the car, but if you wanted an engine that didn't break down, they would have to be at least store-bought. Pistons etc are so persice that it would probably be less of a gamble, and possibly a lot cheaper, to simply buy an engine. Get any friction and your engine will melt in a poof.
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Download the "Gooback from the future" episode of South Park. You sound just like the people from there. "They took'oor Jerbs!"
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