How come whenever some one says something on any of the forums, EVERY one has a negative response? Well not everyone, but alot... I think it's because themselves(the critics) are abused or have mental issues in their life. Or, they get made fun of, like, the "nerd" of the school. The one place they can find refuge, is the internet. They criticize everything anyone says, dragging them down to the ground so that the person they judged or, what they said was judged hates their work or otherthings that they have done. They also call people that don't know any better about certain items "dumb" or related terms. And, over half the time, they don't even know the person. Why clould this be? Please give me feedback.
Positive feedback explaining why people do this. If you yourself does it explain why.
~Master_Damien
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 Oct 14 2003, 5:13 am (Edited on Oct 14 2003, 5:20 am)
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A lot of constructive criticism is misconstrued as isulting comments. Sometimes it is, but sometime it isn't. When someone posts an icon pack with no icons in it and charges money for it, don't expect many positive responses.
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I KNOW that this post is in response to me telling you your post was in the wrong forum.
Read the rules, and obey them. You put your nose around the corner, and someone slapped it. It happens, learn from it. BYOND has made me a cynical, rude person, that and runescape. I am a little cold online, but when you comb the forums, and see ONE single intelligent conversation every month at best, or a single innovative system or game a year, it gets depressing. Maybe I was a little harsh, I realise that BYOND is growing again, and a lot of new users are just jumping onboard, but I think that some of the comments you have just made are ignorant. No offense, but I see a lot of misconceptions in your logic. One does not have to be abused metally or physically to show signs of issues, and rarely do, excuse the expression, assholes have reason to be so. On the internet, people are not worried about what other people think. You sound pretty young, twelve, thirteen, and that isn't a bad thing, but contrary to what the children of our society are taught, not everything has to be positive, without negative feedback, the world would never go any further, without the urge to please those about us, we strive ever farther. Negative feedback drives human society, and fuels all who reside within. Of course, negative feedback does not mean someone being rude to you, or offering advice, look at it this way: Western Medicine, driven further by disease and death. People dying of illness is the drive for western medicine. As you will find, the world is full of negativity, and the internet may be spereate, but it is activated by the world. In real life, people are too busy thinking about their social standing to say what they really think, hell if we all did that, teenage melodrama wouldn't exist. take it not as bashing, flaming, or otherwise, but as a gague to future posts. Hell, I could be wrong, but it won't matter to you if I was right or wrong, in your mind you are going to think what you are going to think, and I am going to continue doing what I do, in the grand scheme of things, little can be said or done to change the world one mind at a time, in summary, you aren't going to change anything by complaining about it, next time it happens, just point it out, and if they argue just say "Whatever, You are going to think what you are going to think then." and leave it alone, dwelling on it will just cause you too much stress. I offer my opinion, and nothing more, I love BYOND too much to drag down others' work, BYOND is basically about open-source, If I was just that jealous of the program, then I would not waste my time or words on a truly good program, rather, I would make my own version, and try to make it better, or see if I could myself do it, just for my own personal satisfaction. Once again, it's all about perspective, you feel offended, hurt, and angry, because you interpreted other peoples' posts as direct assaults or attacks on you or those around you. While that person MAY have percieved that post as constructive criticism, and may have been offering you advice that could help you in the long run. well, think about it. ~Ter | |
The five (23) steps of pseudo-capitalism (karl marx) life to insanity.
step 1: procrastination - we procrastinate because we don't want to do anyihing or because we're "lazy". step 2: bordem - we become bord due to our procrastination and so we are ... bored step 3: crazy - our bordem makes us crazy because there is nothing to do because we have made it that way, and so we go crazy step 4: violent - we become angered and aggressive due to our temporal insanity and so we get violent and destroy things, wasting our free energy and uh...destroying things step 5: sleep - the final stage is sleep. we feel distressed, we feel tired, we sleep. most of us live between steps 3 and 2, but everyone has to sleep eventually. oddly enough, this is like the 5 strengths. strength through discipline strength through numbers strength through brotherhood strength through suffering strength through death you see, death is what makes you the strongest. now repeat after me, i am me, i am free. say that every morining until it becomes true...if we are robots then why were we programmed to feel pain? on a more colorful (of if you're canadian, colourful) note, carpal (carporal?) tunnel is a lie, just like government. so don't you worry my piggily wiggilies, all will be made well one day...ramble ramble ramble... | |
It's the culture. Cultures of negativity seem to develop easily online, where we know you don't have to look someone in the face when you slam them. And negativity becomes the standard; it might be cool, or it might feel good, or it might just be a reflex nobody thinks about. But everyone's doing it and it becomes natural. When questioned on it, people develop reasons why the things they're responding to need harsh responses.
But nobody needs to be rude to anyone else. When polite, constructive criticism doesn't work, we're all capable of ignoring the other person. This isn't real life where we may be stuck in a classroom or even a family with someone we can't stand. It's not our duty to change other posters' irritating behavior at all costs. Z | |
The only reason my pack had no icons in it is because i forgot to include them, thats all.
I'm glad that people posted (I'm over 14 years of age :\) | |
You and others need to understand that the way people are on the net has nothing to do with their social status. It is all with their personality. If they are nice in real life, they are probably nice online too.
Also, people who take constructive critisism negatively, or turn things people say online into a serious matter, are no better than the trolls themselves, for they either a) give in and feed the trolls what they want (they got you mad) or b) complain and complain about things everyone gets online (constructive critisism). I truely have not seen a single post made to you that was a flame. I saw lots of constructive critisism, and you taking offence to it, but no flames. Also, when you take offence to constructive critisism, and say stuff like "I don't care so shutup." (Not that you said that exact thing.), it only gives you more constructive critisism, or gets flames directed at you. Also one thing that irritates me, is when people make stereotypes for others just to make them seem like they are better. These are the type of people that make our society crappy. It is all a big lie, in school, work, online, wherever, and it is quite annoying. | |
Zilal wrote:
It's not our duty to change other posters' irritating behavior at all costs. Awwwww, its not? :'( | |
In certain aspects it does.
At young ages you are told not to judge people, but by example you are taught stereotypes, and are trained to do so. At under certain ages it is excusable, and "over fourteen" sounds like thirteen or twelve to me yet, if he were fourteen, he would have said fourteen, if he were fifteen, he would have said fifteen. Over fourteen, what does that mean, you counting the days or something? Anyway, age actually lessens the stigma if you make a stupid comment, with older people (60+), people don't question, because that was how you were raised, no matter how terrible the thing you say, it doesn't matter, "that was the times" (in society's opinion, not mine) also, the younger you are (13-), you are allowed to make ignorant, stupid comments, because when you are a kid, generally, you are ignorant (as is everyone, but I mean relatively). Anyway, what I'm saying is that age doesn't matter, but it does give license or excuse behind some of the things you do and say. I still say 12 at best. Sorry, view, but you just make some generalizations, and expect everyone to be nice, not the common trait of a fourteen or fifteen year old, that is, an intelligent one. ~Ter | |
I know when I first joined this place I would ask a question and some person would give me a snotty remark!
Is byond full of nerds? I learned about through my sister's friend that Chinese so iam confused.. | |
Master_Damien wrote:
I think it's because themselves(the critics) are abused or have mental issues in their life. Or, they get made fun of, like, the "nerd" of the school. The one place they can find refuge, is the internet. This whole part is just like when the nerdy kids say "the only reason the jocks beat us up is because they know we are smarter then them and will go further in life". Your just trying to make yourself feel like your better then them. Maybe it's not that they don't like you, maybe it's just they aren't sugarcoating everything. We get piles of newbies in here trying to "be the best coder ever", and most of them just plain suck. (No offence, they just aren't ready yet) Personally I try to be nice when I post. However if I've had a rough day and see someone teaching beginners to use usr as often as possible I'll be blunt when I correct them. Also, some people take a lot of offence to simple pointers. "That library is really inefficient, you should go through and reprogram the whole thing before you release it" isn't a huge personal attack on you. The person saying it just thinks that A) Your Library is inefficient and B) You could remake it to be more efficient. It doesn't mean they hate you. For me it actually means I like you more if I am harsh. I'll give you a "perfect copy and paste never have to talk to you again" reply if I don't like you. On the other hand if I like you I'll rip your program to peices and show you every little thing you could redo better. (Well, if I had time I would) Anyway, I'm not saying we are all perfect people here at the forums, but we aren't out to get everyone who comes in here. A lot of it just comes down to miscommunication. | |
hehehee this topic goes all the way back to when the arguements with Lexy and I came up... and you know what's weird? This is the only forum I've ever been on (and I've been on a TON) that has EVER even considered discussing a topic like this.
I've noticed some other things, like how did "Gay" or other sayings for homosexuals become a derogatory slang term that almost everyone under the age of 20 has used at one point in their life as bigotry? Was there a big period of hating "gay" people a few years back and I just missed it? I am baffled on this one. I think people in general have a ton of problems, and online their image is always a blurry one so no one can just "classify" them or put them into a category like loser, or nerd, or jock because all you see is words!! So then with this new found freedom of less stereotyping people tend to just say what they want, and do what they want since it is the internet after all and they don't "SEE" the person get hurt so they don't know anything really about the situation. | |
hey! thats right! I am know as the Computer geek ny some! That poast really moves me. I am a nice guy and people think i spend to much time on my comp. Well let me tell them something, I spend more time with my Game Boy Advance and Gamecube the my computer.
Odd huh? | |
A lot of the negative responses here come from both the above and the average age of forum users here. The rest are most likely something the poster posted that warranted that sort of response.
That's my theory on it, anyway.