I rented Tekken 4 and finally borrowed MGS2 from a friend...i just have to say the MGS2 story is way too complicated and keeps you guessing whos good and whos bad all the time. overall great game great story and lots of things to do i would give it a 9/10. Tekken 4...hmm i think namco needs to figure out a way to make their games longer...it was great looking fun to play but the secret chars are too easy to earn and it loses its playability in a few hours unless you invite some friends over...i would give it a 7/10.