Hey, my friend showed me this 'Byond'. What exactly is it?

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Jul 5 2002, 1:47 pm
My friend showed me dragon ball z game , and I had to use byond. I wan't know what byond is?
Jul 5 2002, 1:50 pm
Well you got a key, so obviously you know how to work some basics on BYOND(Build Your Own Net Dream). All you need to do is figure out how the verb pannel works and how to act correctly, you'll fit right in(Oh and try not to cuss/flame on these forums).

<<>>Semaj<<>>
Jul 5 2002, 1:53 pm
In response to Semaj
Well, my friend set up my key for me. So far, people have told me it's like C++ programming, but online. Is this correct?
Jul 5 2002, 1:55 pm
Ne Me Mori Facias wrote:
My friend showed me dragon ball z game , and I had to use byond. I wan't know what byond is?

BYOND is a multiplayer game development engine. It can be used to create your own games, or play games created by others.

It's really not like C++, though, so whoever told you that is full of crap. It's similar only to the extent that most languages are similar: It has a lot of the same basic core functionality for many things, but the specifics are very different.

Lummox JR
Jul 5 2002, 1:56 pm
In response to Lummox JR
Oh, ok. So, how do you "build your own net dream" then?
Jul 5 2002, 1:57 pm
In response to Lummox JR
Can't forget, C++ is harder to use, but can do a lot more =/.

<<>>Semaj<<>>
Jul 5 2002, 2:00 pm
In response to Semaj
I sort of know c++. I read a book about it, but I couldn't get a decent compiler to use it.
Jul 5 2002, 2:04 pm
In response to Ne Me Mori Facias
Ne Me Mori Facias wrote:
Oh, ok. So, how do you "build your own net dream" then?

As long as you've downloaded BYOND, you just fire up Dream Maker.

BYOND is a set of three programs: Dream Maker, Dream Seeker, and Dream Daemon. Dream Maker is the compiler; Dream Seeker is the engine that playes the games; Dream Daemon is for setting up a server to run a game, sort of like a MUD might use.

Lummox JR
Jul 5 2002, 2:05 pm (Edited on Jul 5 2002, 3:39 pm)
In response to Ne Me Mori Facias
Ne Me Mori Facias wrote:
Oh, ok. So, how do you "build your own net dream" then?

"It's really not like C++, though, so whoever told you that is full of crap. It's similar only to the extent that most languages are similar" - Lummox JR

BYOND is a language like C++. As such to make a game you must learn how to use the language, byond uses DM.

note: BYOND is in "BETA" and this not compleate there is new addions to the language that make it more powerfull each release. right now byond can make games in DS and can also make web games and websites in it own CGI. and much more as the programers learn new Technique's in programing.
Jul 5 2002, 2:07 pm
In response to Lummox JR
It also comes with DreamDeploy which isn't added to your start menu anymore.
Jul 5 2002, 2:26 pm
In response to Xzar
Xzar wrote:
BYOND is a language like C++. As such to make a game you must learn gow to use the language, byond uses DM.

BYOND is a language and C++ is a language. They share little other similarity of any kind. Saying BYOND is a language like C++ is like saying English is a language like Mandarin Chinese.

note: BYOND is in "BETA" and this not compleate there is new addions to the language that make it more powerfull each release.

BYOND is constantly being improved upon, but it isn't currently in beta. It's a release version you're using.

right now byond can make games in DS and can also make web games and websites in it own CGI. and much more as the programers learn new tequenes in programing.

Yo quiero tequenes!
Seriously, is that supposed to be pronounced like in Spanish (te-KAY-nays) or English (teh-kweenz)?

Lummox JR
Jul 5 2002, 2:31 pm
In response to Ne Me Mori Facias
yep thats it atleat what the dm forums say im tryin to leran code but its so hard
Jul 5 2002, 2:38 pm
In response to Lummox JR
Lummox JR wrote:
BYOND is a language and C++ is a language. They share little other similarity of any kind. Saying BYOND is a language like C++ is like saying English is a language like Mandarin Chinese.

I have stated that Byond uses it own language "DM".


BYOND is constantly being improved upon, but it isn't currently in beta. It's a release version you're using.

Dantom never stated it to be out of it's develomet stage. as ths it can not be constered a compleate language. But as in it beta/develomet stage.


Yo quiero tequenes!
Seriously, is that supposed to be pronounced like in Spanish (te-KAY-nays) or English (teh-kweenz)?

I am not going to comment on this one.
Jul 5 2002, 2:59 pm
In response to Xzar
Xzar wrote:
Lummox JR wrote:
BYOND is a language and C++ is a language. They share little other similarity of any kind. Saying BYOND is a language like C++ is like saying English is a language like Mandarin Chinese.

I have stated that Byond uses it own language "DM".

Yes it does. But DM is nothing like C++ in any significant sense.

BYOND is constantly being improved upon, but it isn't currently in beta. It's a release version you're using.

Dantom never stated it to be out of it's develomet stage. as ths it can not be constered a compleate language. But as in it beta/develomet stage.

They're still working on it and improving it, but that doesn't mean it's in beta. Lots of programs get released and get upgraded later. They're keeping it up to date, but that's not the same as it being in beta at all.

BYOND is in the state where Dantom wanted it to be for a public release; that's a release, not a beta. Compare that to some games in beta that you can download; they're considered beta versions because they don't have the full set of features the developer intended for the actual release.

Yo quiero tequenes!
Seriously, is that supposed to be pronounced like in Spanish (te-KAY-nays) or English (teh-kweenz)?

I am not going to comment on this one.

Why not? You invented the word. If you make a definition to go along with it, then there's little chance you'll fail to use that correctly, at least.

Lummox JR
Jul 5 2002, 3:37 pm
In response to Lummox JR
Lummox JR wrote:
They're still working on it and improving it, but that doesn't mean it's in beta. Lots of programs get released and get upgraded later. They're keeping it up to date, but that's not the same as it being in beta at all.

BYOND is in the state where Dantom wanted it to be for a public release; that's a release, not a beta. Compare that to some games in beta that you can download; they're considered beta versions because they don't have the full set of features the developer intended for the actual release.

it may be (is) at the state they intended for the actual release but no such relase has happend.

Thease are the definitions of how I heard them. I've tryed to get it from Dictionary.com however they do not have any for computer terms.

Released(public push) - is a compleate project open to the pubic. in the world of the internet and gaming it will conture to grow with updates.

Beta - is refered in the Professional feld of programing as a near finished/finished product waiting relese, under intence bug finding & adding of last munite fetures.

Alpha - is the state of building the base of the game. it usely is an unplayable state, or with constet changes.

Jul 5 2002, 4:01 pm
In response to Xzar
Xzar wrote:
it may be (is) at the state they intended for the actual
release but no such relase has happend.

Direct from the downloads page: "BYOND 3.x is ready for download!" Sounds like a release notice to me... no mention of the word 'beta' there...

Released(public push) - is a compleate project open to
the pubic. in the world of the internet and gaming it
will conture to grow with updates.

Well, with the exception that it has nothing to do with 'pubic' anything - your badly quoted definition just proves the point: BYOND is, in many respects, a finished/completed project - at least at this point (version 330)! You could stop downloading updates now, and it would still retain all the fuctionality and features it contains. Updates just improve the product.

If you still think that BYOND is in beta, then you must admit that WindowsXP, RedHat Linux, StarCraft, Quake3, and nearly any other upgradable/update-able piece of software that you own must *also* still be considered 'beta'...

I have worked in the software development industry offand on for nearly 10 years - BYOND is no longer in any serious 'beta' stage (DanTom may think so, but they're just being modest). It is a 'released' software package that continues to improve with bug fixes and updates - kinda like Windows...
Jul 5 2002, 4:53 pm
In response to Nadrew
What DOES Dream Deploy do anyway?
Jul 5 2002, 7:27 pm
In response to Xzar
Xzar wrote:
Released(public push) - is a compleate project open to the pubic. in the world of the internet and gaming it will conture to grow with updates.

This is exactly the state BYOND is in. You've just proven my point.

Lummox JR
Jul 5 2002, 9:25 pm
In response to Nadrew
Nadrew wrote:
It also comes with DreamDeploy which isn't added to your start menu anymore.

DreamDeploy never was added to the start menu -- it's part of the distribution package functionality that was integrated into Dream Maker.
Jul 6 2002, 5:51 am
In response to Ne Me Mori Facias
Well, I'm surprised no one brought it up yet, but have you looked over Zilal's BYOND Tutorial? ZBT was how I got started coding DM, and I found it to be a very well written tutorial for begginers with no DM or programming experience. If you want more, look around the Tutorials section (located to the left under Developers) as well as the FAQ, the Guide (for some nice DM examples), and the Reference (for more detailed information). There is also a book written by Dantom (the creators of BYOND) on the DM language and game-making in BYOND. It's called "The Blue Book", and it's well worth the few dimes they're asking for it.

The best way to learn DM is by using DM. Ask questions and heed advice from those who've traveled these roads before you. Soon you'll be making small demos and pieces of games, and before you know it, you'll be answering questions more than asking them....

~X (good luck!)