In response to Lummox JR
yeah it does.
In response to Shades
Shades wrote:
yeah it does.

If you have something serious to say in response, then say it, but otherwise don't bother. A simple contradiction really has no place on the forums. I know you can do better than "nuh-uh!", at least in general. If you can't think of any better argument for your case, maybe there's a reason for that.

Lummox JR
In response to Lummox JR
Ok, alright, alright..

The fact that BYOND might need help from time to time dosen't make it a bad thing. There are lots of programs and browsers and stuff that uses plug ins and outside software to help it along.

You could think of whatever Volte made as a accessorie for BYOND. Like when you used to get those magnfiyer lens that went over your Gameboy screen, or those lights that clip onto the cover of a book so you can read in the dark.

Just because a outside program has to help BYOND dosent mean that it has nothing to do with BYOND. I am sure you could just as easily use it in conjunction with a normal game in BYOND and have it work just fine.

Of course i am not that worried about it.
In response to Blakdragon77
I pity you. That 'language' is the worst, worst excuse for a programming language to ever exist.

Of course, I've heard similar things about Fortran.
In response to Shades
Shades wrote:
Ok, alright, alright..

The fact that BYOND might need help from time to time dosen't make it a bad thing. There are lots of programs and browsers and stuff that uses plug ins and outside software to help it along.

You could think of whatever Volte made as a accessorie for BYOND. Like when you used to get those magnfiyer lens that went over your Gameboy screen, or those lights that clip onto the cover of a book so you can read in the dark.

Just because a outside program has to help BYOND dosent mean that it has nothing to do with BYOND. I am sure you could just as easily use it in conjunction with a normal game in BYOND and have it work just fine.

Of course i am not that worried about it.

Depending on how it's done, I wouldn't be surprised that, with a few changes, you could have it do a 3D game in Notepad instead. :P
In response to Jon88
Lol, you can, but everyone would have to download and install the files serperately, and someone will end up messing up their system registry.

In response to Jp
I feel the same. I haven't heard of much languages, but I'm sure the only language worse than Visual Basic is COBOL. It's not got that much functions.

Why not learn a worth-while language, like C/C++?
In response to Jp
Jp wrote:
I pity you. That 'language' is the worst, worst excuse for a programming language to ever exist.

As someone who's studied many languages, I heartily disagree. VB is easy to use and very very easy to develop interfaces with. It's an ideal choice for many simple applications. As for games, well, it's probably best suited to card and board games.

Lummox JR
In response to CaptFalcon33035
CaptFalcon33035 wrote:
I feel the same. I haven't heard of much languages, but I'm sure the only language worse than Visual Basic is COBOL. It's not got that much functions.

Visual Basic isn't bad at all, in fact easy to use and elegantly designed. COBOL on the other hand is a frickin' dinosaur, and programming with it is a lot like driving the Flintstones' car. Of the languages I've learned, COBOL is the only one I hate worse than Pascal.

Why not learn a worth-while language, like C/C++?

Indeed C++ is worthwhile to learn, especially because many modern languages (including Java) base their syntax off it. And of course Perl is a cousin to C, and if you know Perl you also have a leg up on PHP. Between Perl and C++ you can probably also get a good grip on JavaScript.

Lummox JR
In response to Jon88
Jon88 wrote:
Depending on how it's done, I wouldn't be surprised that, with a few changes, you could have it do a 3D game in Notepad instead. :P

Not quite a 3D game, but I just made this to demonstrate the point...

http://members.byond.com/Loduwijk/files/Notepad%20Game.exe

Just run the program, open Notepad, and you're in the game. You can make it work on other windows too by altering the text field in the program's window. I was playing it in an AIM window and screwing up that window's graphics.

Don't worry, it doesn't cause any harm, simply minimizing and restoring a window fixes it.

To play it, simply push the left and right arrow keys to move the guy. Catch the falling spheres.
In response to Loduwijk
That's so awesome.

Xale says:
What're you doing?
Capt says:
Playing a game in Notepad.
Xale says:
O.O
In response to Lummox JR
Not to mention that BYOND is very C-like in places.
In response to Loduwijk
Cool. I wonder if this could be used to augment games.
In response to Iqloo
Iqloo wrote:
Cool. I wonder if this could be used to augment games.

I have messed with some games before, though not by messing with their graphics. I have made programs which detect the keystrokes in the game window and modify a bit of memory, make some automatic action happen, or other such things.

For instance, when I was playing Shining Force II once upon a time I made a program that would detect - while I'm still in the game window - when I press F2 and raise my experience enough to gain a level, or F3 and heal me to full health. Doesn't make the game itself much fun, I know; but I had already beaten the game and wanted to mess around with it.

I also made a program once to beep at me in a Byond game when I got low on health (I kept dying because I was forgetting to keep track of it). I imagine it would be cooler if I made a fancy graphical notification display on the Dream Seeker window.

Plenty of things can be done.
In response to Calus CoRPS
Calus CoRPS wrote:
Jon88 wrote:
That wasn't really BYOND. That was some other program that just put stuff onto BYOND's map screen.
You can render out 3d images and import them to dmi files, though.

Jon, so pretty much he made a game using a diffrent language and then put it on the Byonds map screen?

->Calus CoRPS<-

Kind of. In the latest version, I had the BYOND program send some information to the Visual Basic program (what the map looked like), and I had the program build sort of a 3D environment for that map. If I ever finished it, I would have released the procedures for information sending, that way people could see their maps in a rudimentary 3D form.

~>Volte
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