I've always figured I was about 60% wrong about things, and maybe 40% right if I was lucky.
This led me to a few conclusions:
First, I should try to make the 40% of the time I was right be darn good.
Second, I should try to reduce the percentage of wrongness through incremental improvements, not unlike the typical Microsoft product.
Third, I should be humble in debates with people and always keep things civil and open-minded, as my personal statistics indicated they had a better than average chance of being the ones in the right.
Fourth, I should try to do research and argue from actual facts as often as possible, since on my own my track record wasn't so great.
Fifth, I should be willing and happy to change my mind when I am proven wrong.
Well, those have been the goals...so how have I done?
I can't complain about my life too much (except, you know, when it involves Guitar Boy, who is going at it this moment), so I'm gonna say my 40% rightness has gotten me pretty far.
For better or worse, I have a strong track record of shoving things out there and incrementally improving them, even if that has proved annoying for some of the recipients being incrementalled on. I usually start without a clear idea of where I'm going or how to get there, but I eventually do get there and sometimes with some flair.
That brings us to humble and open-minded argument. Um...hey, look, a bird! Well, my main pride there is that I have never that I can recall descended into ad hominem attacks or profanity-laced disagreement. I have been the recipient of such blasts, and when the argument reaches that point, I choose to leave the argument. Life is too short and it's not worth it.
However, I am guilty of descending into a bit of snarkiness, and of not always treating arguments with due respect. When I should be taking someone seriously and trying to discuss things in a way designed to really change their mind or my mind and not drop into the usual online bash-fest, I all too often go the wrong way. It's a tough one. And one I need to continually improve on.
As for doing research and arguing from facts...hmm. I'm not very smart when it comes to remembering pesky things like "facts". When lots of dates and acronyms and calculations start flying, my brain does a Homer and ups and leaves me to fend for myself. So I end up arguing from half-remembered stuff I've read or seen here or there, but which I can't necessarily refer back to and am probably mis-remembering in some fashion. My best option has tended to be to find people whose logical approach to problems makes sense to me, and then listen to them. But if discussion of especially hot button topics is ever going to be elevated beyond "It is so! It is not!", then I think it's my obligation to actually get down to some facts and do some processing. Unfortunately, this takes time and energy, so often I just avoid getting into the discussions. Another area for me to improve on.
That leaves a willingness to change my mind. In the long-term I've got this one covered cold. In my life I've gone from a religious ultra-liberal knee-jerk environmentalist to an atheist something-not-all-liberal-but-still-working-that-out skeptical environmentalist.
In the short-term, though, I begrudgingly do the mind-changing thing. I get there when it needs to be done, but not fast enough or with enough grace. I have a great respect for those who can clearly look back and say, "Boy was I an idiot there!"
So what's this all about? Some mental housecleaning, I suppose, combined with a belated New Year's resolution:
This year I resolve to continue to be frequently wrong, sometimes right, and always trying to elevate the level of the discussion in the process.
Feb 4 2007, 5:40 pm
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Very deep, but very true. I as well need to become more humble in what I do, especially with personal (and online) affairs..., which I had to deal with today. Nonetheless this life is too short, and in the span of eternity this life is only a speck that probably won't ever be remembered. Everything we do, kids we have, friends we make, all fades away to less then 0.00001% when compared to the span of eternity. We might as well not dwell on the petty things in life but try to reach higher goals. I just wish it was as easy as saying it. Great post.
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Part of the thrill of being wrong is that it's the only way to learn. If you're already right, you already know everything important about the subject at hand.
So if anything, I'd strive to be more wrong, by venturing into things that I don't know anything about in order to learn them. It's shaped who I am today, and though I have my brief moments of stupidity, I like to think of myself as an intellectual. =) |
You know, I was thinking the exact same thing this past week. :(
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About five years ago I simplified my philosophy into three principles:
Honesty: Also described as clear judgement. To evaluate concepts based on their merit, and not on our desires concerning them. Before I would get caught up in believing something just because it would be good for me were it true, it would be bad for me were it untrue, or because it being true would open up all sorts of other posibilities for my consideration (it was interesting and complex). Empathy: To understand phenomena (originally just people) from multiple standpoints. To understand your own standpoint leads to you knowledge of why you have reacted in such a way. To understand their standpoint leads you to knowledge of the origin of their behavior, and how to best communicate. Ferocity: To act with your whole effort, this implies not allowing yourself to become defeated. (Here defeat refers to giving up; to admit that you are wrong is not a defeat). Of these, I feel that I have been true, to a great extent, to the ideals of honesty and empathy. I can see how they've shaped who I am, how I live, and my relationships with others. Ferocity, however, remains illusive. In disregarding pain, disapointments, and adversity as inherently wrong and to be avoided at all costs, you also have to disregard pleasure, accomplishments, and success as inherently good and to be saught. This results in stagnation, and stagnation certainly can't be described as ferocious :/ I hope that, when I die, honesty will be enough. I do not believe there exists a god (if there exists any) who could condem for disbelief, improper allegience, ignorance, or any form of apostacy, should honesty be found as it's origin. |
My philosophy is thus:
Never change your mind. If your level of not-changing-your-mind is higher than their level of not-changing-their-mind, then at some point during the argument they'll eventually give in and start believing in what you think is right (but is wrong). This may take several hours but goddamn is it worth it! If everyone thinks something is right, then it becomes right. Also: I'm wrong about 90% of things and right about 10%. I make terrible judgements of character, I mess up all the time, I make mistakes, I fall off raised platforms and land on my side in the middle of the street, I run into fences. But once I was sitting at the table with my mum (called Monica) and she said "I hate my name". I thought "I wonder what she should change it to- ah! She should change it to Jemima.". She then said to me: "I should change it to Jemima". That's my 10% correctness. I'm a clumsy telepath. Deadron said: I have a great respect for those who can clearly look back and say, "Boy was I an idiot there!" Then you should regard me as your God. Not a day goes by that I don't suddenly blurt out in public "GAH WHAT WERE YOU THINKING" or slap myself in the face (in a kind of "doh!") because I've recalled yet another moment of wrongness. Especially when it involves being on a swing and a little girl ran in front and I kicked her over. :( |
Re: Elation
Do people look at you funny when you blurt out things and slap yourself? ;-) |
This year I resolve to continue to be frequently wrong, sometimes right, and always trying to elevate the level of the discussion in the process. I'd say you have been doing a fine job of that for some time, but staying the course can be a good resolution! I don't think I've made a resolution yet. Maybe I can resolve to give you numerous opportunities to elevate the level of the discussion... |
Meh, well through all this deep intellectual thinking, I've just had one thought.
Damn am I happy that I'm young enough to be immature and stupid. I mean, I hope one day that I can be open minded and have great intellectual arguments where everyone leaves happy. But for now I'm quite content with calling people idiots, and assaulting there religious foundation. But hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night. |
*GASP!*
Someone on the internet who admits he can be wrong! This, ladies and gentleman, is called a 'Human.' |