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Oddly enough when I went to join chatters the other day a malware virus popped up before I joined, my antivirus stopped it but whenever it did it would shut down all my dream seeker windows, so one time I allowed this so called virus, and ever since then i've been having numerous byond difficulties, such as not being able to connect to some games, a "BYOND Central is not accessible." error quite often and lagging severely on games. Im sure all of these are symptoms to a terrible internet connection however connection is fine and all, anywho the point of this is to see if anyone else has experienced this?
Either you need a new virus scanner because the one you have now is giving false positives or you've already been infected with something not related to BYOND.
In response to SuperAntx
You can give someone a virus with a BYOND program, and Chatters is open-source...
In response to Warlord Fred
You're right about that. I heard Linux was just a front for the development of Skynet.
In response to Warlord Fred
No, you can't.
In response to Jeff8500
You could distribute a virus through a BYOND "program" just as easily as you could through a web browser (IE is built right in) or any messenger program. Along with multiple other delivery methods. You could even create a "virus" with BYOND.
In response to Falacy
Except for sending it through IE or asking the player to download it directly, only the computer executing the dmb can be targeted.

The OP said he just joined a server.
In response to DarkCampainger
You could include it in the resources, which sounds like what happened in his case. There could also be .dll issues, but I know next to nothing about calling those. It also isn't necessarily IE specific, you could use link() to open up anything you wanted in their default browser.
In response to Falacy
Falacy wrote:
You could include it in the resources

This is far less trivial than you make it sound.
For such a malicious code to work, it would have to be interpreted and executed by the BYOND VM. I'd say that designing such code to specifically target potential loop holes in the VM is past the majority of users in this community.


Falacy wrote:
There could also be .dll issues

These are called and executed server-sided only (by the time I'm posting this). Thus no harm can arise for the client that the server could not generate by other means regardless of BYOND.
In response to Falacy
The only viable option you listed is to use BYOND's embedded IE, but even then, unless he used some custom/modified Chatters client, he shouldn't be having issues.
In response to Jeff8500
Jeff8500 wrote:
The only viable option you listed is to use BYOND's embedded IE, but even then, unless he used some custom/modified Chatters client, he shouldn't be having issues.

If anyone knows a way to exploit BYOND through the IE browser (assuming users are using a later version of IE such as 7+), I'd be very interested. Obviously we want the client to be very secure. While you could link() the user to malicious content, AFAIK there is no automated way to force them to execute it. If there is, we'll want to shore that up, which presents some technical challenges and likely limitations for usage of this function.
In response to Tom
I don't know of any automated methods, but stupidity so common that I could probably get a few people to download some viruses.
In response to Jeff8500
I would just like to say that the first reply is most likely correct. This sounds like a false positive.