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http://www.byond.com/games/Mistamage123/NarutoWildDrawForce

Sometimes, even when you have a hub password only you know, and when you are the only one with the files, hackers still find a way to **** up your hub. Even when the game hasn't been hosted in months

When i open up the medals & scores option in the hub editor, there is no option to eradicate certain 'hacked' values like ''PWNED''. There is only the option to ''hide'' them. That means, everytime you open up your hub page to edit something, you'll always see ''PWNED'' ''PIRATE'' ''PIKE'' in your scores list I'd like a way to totally remove those so I don't have to stab my eyes everytime I want to change scores on the leaderboards

I would also like an option to completely ban people from the scoreboard/earning medals using the website only

Thanks.
I quote from the reference; "Sending an empty text string for the fields will erase the scores for that key."

ps. My score on your hub is definitely not edited!
In response to Aries
Aries wrote:
I quote from the reference; "Sending an empty text string for the fields will erase the scores for that key."

ps. My score on your hub is definitely not edited!

Actually...

The Staff can see the last time the game was hosted, which hasn't been since May 5th. We don't even need to go by word here, when data on this can reveal the truth.

Then they can see the time scores have been uploaded, and by whom, from where, etc.

And, as I mentioned, I said i would like a way to remove hacked scores using the website, not the game.

Also, when adding a new score category using the ''hide'' option for 'sort', it cannot be deleted, even if it is hacked

So scores like 'PWNED' cannot be deleted whatsoever, only hidden. Then again, you know all about this, don't you?
In response to Mista-mage123
They can be deleted, you don't know what you're talking about.

EDIT: Also, chances are you need a stronger hub password.
In response to Jeff8500
Jeff8500 wrote:
They can be deleted, you don't know what you're talking about.


Really?

When I open up the 'Medals & Scores' tab on a page, and select a category, say ''High Score''. I don't see a delete option, but there is the option to "hide" it.

While "hiding" it prevents this score from being made public on a game's hub page, i still have to stab my eyes everytime i want to edit/add categories and see hacked categories such as "PWNED"

The only solution I can tell to damage caused by the actions of people such as 'Aries', 'Bobbyawesome' and 'Cyberlord34', is to make a completely new hub with a different password, which requires me to go through an entire hell of work. Work which could be avoided by having the option to delete score categories in a leaderboard.
In response to Mista-mage123
Mista-mage123 wrote:
The only solution I can tell to damage caused by the actions of people such as 'Aries', 'Bobbyawesome' and 'Cyberlord34'...

Just to clear this up a little, don't always assume that the person listed is the person who took advantage of the hub entry. I believe there is a certain group of trolls who have some ridiculous vendetta against Bobbyawesome, and it's likely they put his name there, not him.
In response to Airjoe
Airjoe wrote:
Just to clear this up a little, don't always assume that the person listed is the person who took advantage of the hub entry. I believe there is a certain group of trolls who have some ridiculous vendetta against Bobbyawesome, and it's likely they put his name there, not him.

Hmm.. I see. Well, surely, the staff can see who 'actually' submitted the scores in the first place.

Anyway, this wasn't about looking for punishment for those involved, that's why I made the topic in the community forum. This topic is about requesting the features mentioned in the OP

At the moment, no feature exists to eradicate score categories from a hub leaderboard, giving me no choice but to take down the hub and re-make it, completely destroying everyone's submitted scores and relying on host-side savefiles to resubmit them.
In response to Mista-mage123
Remaking it will also reset your rank, comments, guild listings, and any linked reviews.
These people are not hackers. Yes, you can delete medals and you have been told several times already how to do it. If you are not knowledgeable enough to understand what they're saying, may I suggest stepping away from programming and choosing a far less mentallying-challening hobby, such as twiddling your thumbs. Choose a stronger hub password.
In response to Popisfizzy
Popisfizzy wrote:
These people are not hackers. Yes, you can delete medals and you have been told several times already how to do it. If you are not knowledgeable enough to understand what they're saying, may I suggest stepping away from programming and choosing a far less mentallying-challening hobby, such as twiddling your thumbs. Choose a stronger hub password.

How will stronger hub passwords protect from string extractors?

If you are going to make a suggestion and be a dick about it then you should at least make a useful one.

An appropriate suggestion would be: Change your hub password to be set at runtime in a manner that cannot be extracted from external programs.
In response to AJX
AJX wrote:
How will stronger hub passwords protect from string extractors?

Were they using string extractors to do this, I imagine there would be far, far more interesting targets for them to go after, as pretty much every hub would be in danger. Given that they are not here complaining, I think it's most likely just a terrible password.
In response to Popisfizzy
Popisfizzy wrote:
Were they using string extractors to do this, I imagine there would be far, far more interesting targets for them to go after, as pretty much every hub would be in danger.

How do you figure they picked targets then o.O Randomly tried every single hub entry to find ones with weak passwords? More likely than not this guy GAVE his password out, as is the case with most "hacked" accounts in HU. But your argument still doesn't make much sense o.O
In response to Falacy
In response to Popisfizzy
Someone illicitly gained access to a system which they were not supposed to. Quit being a nit-picker and posting stuff like "this isn't hacking". It doesn't add anything to the topic, and it's hardly correct. If you find a key under my doormat and go into my apartment, it's still breaking and entering.
In response to Popisfizzy
Popisfizzy wrote:
http://www.byond.com/members/Bandwagon/forum?id=170

From the sounds of it, that topic was about hubs with NO passwords on them. So I guess its possible this guys hub just got taken advantage of back then and he didn't notice till now. Still though, they'd have to be going around trying EVERY hub entry to find those.
In response to Airjoe
You know it's funny, in the UK that isn't the case. Nor would the contents insurance pay out.
In response to Stephen001
We all know the UK is fail =P (they can't even decide on a name for hams sake)
In response to Falacy
Actually, we're so cool we required several.

Although thinking about it, the same sentiment doesn't apply in the computer misuse act. We don't protect idiot home owners, just idiot administrators.

This case sounds mostly like a password security issue, unless you're changing the password and still repeatedly getting this problem. As for banning ... well I would personally say you get what's coming with a weak password. If your security is good, then that's another matter.
Anyone caught abusing this system will be banned.
In response to AJX
AJX wrote:
How will stronger hub passwords protect from string extractors?

Unless I'm mistaken, the DMB doesn't contain the hub password, merely a hash of it. Making the use of string extraction here quite meaningless.

So yeah, stronger hub password is the way to go.

Personally, I don't feel what the big deal about using a stronger hub password is. It doesn't exactly need to be something you have to remember. Iam93m4nv9r04m isn't likely to be bested by anyone. Make it, copy and paste it into your code and forget about it.
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