I made this for my avatar on DBO2's forum
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 Dec 23 2007, 7:15 pm
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I made this for my avatar on DBO2's forum | |
When I'm making a dragonballz picture...I can't remember their exact hair, face, or clothing features! And if your so confident that making a dragonballz picture off your head is not that hard...you go for it and then post it here! I would like to see it.
And the point of this image was so I could have a picture of gohan during Cell Saga as my avatar...I wanted the exact scene that I have there. Why would I not look at an image to replicate a scene? The other images I've done are just for fun! I'm not trying to impress anyone or make them 'perfect'..I'm just messing around with improving my 'line-art.' | |
Well there are more ways to 'replicate' other than copying it. I used to do this as a kid, copy dbz pics and sell them in the school yard, great memories.
There is nothing wrong with what your doing, nothing wrong at all. But its pointless. You wont gain anything from making them, and if we wanted to see the same 'exact' thing...we would just go watch the episode. Neither you, or the people who you show this too will gain anything, thats why I think these are a bit pointless. Either way, good job on 'eye tracing' these. You might want to consider color changes for the sake of readability. | |
As long as he's not tracing over the images he's copy this shouldn't be a problem. I'm pretty sure if he's doing these free hand they're improving his observation, and pixel placement areas (though there's some problem areas that he could probably fix to make it look less jaggy), as well as getting more a feel for the "big picture."
A painter draws a portrait of someone. How is this any different (as in drawing something you're observing) any different than what Robbie is doing? | |
Maggeh wrote:
A painter draws a portrait of someone. How is this any different (as in drawing something you're observing) any different than what Robbie is doing? There is no difference, thats why I said theres nothing wrong with what he was doing. But unlike a portrait, the benefits you gain from drawing from another drawing is much much less. As I posted before, I told you your stuff needed more in depth pixel treatment. The lines and shapes are jaggy as maggeh said. Well, jest because its drawn on something raster like paint...dosent means its pixel art. Apply some pixel art techniques. | |
Well I think he means your free hand drawing it. And by pixel art techniques I think he means like dithering it, or Anti Alias, or something, though you are doing pixel art, idk what hes talking about.
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Gotcha..but I'm not dithering it because thats not the style! And I'm not bothering with AA because I'm just making these for fun! I'm not trying to impress anyone lol
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What I suggest, is use some selective outlining, it would make it look alot better, and still keep DBZ's style, and is as easy as making a black outline itself.
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I'll get this straight, I never mentioned anything about impressing or not. All I said was that on that oolong, I wanted you to try a off the head image. I never said anything was wrong with it. I've done mimicked images before, but I've never done an pixelated one before.
As for a painter and someone bit, there is one major flaw there. A painter doesn't refer something already drewn. They refer to live models, and what not. Thouh I've never taken a class like that, there may be other things they may refer to, but I've never heard of a painter refering to another person's work, and painting that person's work. Or in another way to say. Same concept I guess, but totally different. Then again, I could be totally wrong. But in the end, all I'm saying is that I would like to see Rob try an off the head image. Nothing more or less. As with the oolong topic, if you don't mind. | |
Robbie Hewitt wrote:
Gotcha..but I'm not dithering it because thats not the style! And I'm not bothering with AA because I'm just making these for fun! I'm not trying to impress anyone lol oh god. This is truly the worst attitude anyone can have when trying to improve. Helm, admin of pixelation Wrote: Quote * Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. If you put water in a cup it becomes the cup, if you put into a bottle it becomes the bottle. You put water into a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. There is no distinction between pixel art styles. They are all aspects of one thing. Study it holistically. | |
Yay for Bruce Lee.
Robbie: they would look a lot better if you added some AA for it would remove the jaggies. I don't think you should blow off other people's advice, even though they were particularly hostile. Everyone else: It's not that big of a deal if he doesn't add AA, or dithering, or selective outlining. It's his choice if he doesn't want too. It's not that big of a deal that he copied another image, which is what he wanted to to do. He was doing just for fun, not something he was going to submit to any sort of contest, submit to some game, or used to improve his skills at drawing pixel art. "As for a painter and someone bit, there is one major flaw there. A painter doesn't refer something already drewn. They refer to live models, and what not. Thouh I've never taken a class like that, there may be other things they may refer to, but I've never heard of a painter refering to another person's work, and painting that person's work. Or in another way to say. Same concept I guess, but totally different." Many, many art classes are based around studying others work. In fact, aside from actually painting or drawing or what ever it is you're doing, you'll probably studying and copying the techniques of other artists. I'm not sure if this is a unified thing, but some classes may even require you to make a direct copy of someone else's work. I had a couple of these types of projects in High School, and my Mother claims she had to do a few in college as well. But I'll admit, the example I used a bit extreme and far fetch. You'll never see someone copying someone else's work for profit or anything like that. | |
Looks nice obviously, but then again, it's just another mimicked image. Not saying that mimicked images are bad, it's just that people usually start off mimicking, then go off from there, and do things off there head.
I know off the head is probably 10x harder for most people, but when you actually get off the mimicking phase and start doing off your head work, it's way better. More satisfying also.
I haven't mimicked an image in years, but I know it takes a certain amount of skill, but not too much. Especially for those who are already good at iconing.