Wrong, wrong, wrong.

You're right about the PS2 version, but "Machina" was never in the name of any DX game. The phrase "Deus ex machina" is where the name Deus Ex comes from. That's all.
Yeah, There it is
http://www.planetdeusex.com/

On the side.

Whatever. Planet Deus Ex is just a fansite that's hosted by gamespy. Your link is from Eidos, so you win. >_>
Edit: Bah, you had to edit your post before I read it again. Still, I'll keep this comment here just to drive in the point. =)


So? They're wrong too. (Which is a shame, since they really should know better.)

I think I'd trust the publisher to know the name of the game over a fan site. (Even if the publisher is Eidos!)

Furthermore, the box art reads "Deus Ex". Not "Deus Ex Machina". When you start up the game, it calls itself "Deus Ex".

Just to add insult to injury: GOOGLE FIGHT!

First, a search for "Deus Ex Machina" the video game, but omitting results containing "Automata" or "Spectrum" in an effort to remove false positives referring to this game (made for a Spectrum computer by a company called Automata UK in 1984):

Search for "deus ex machina" game -automata -spectrum
http://www.google.com.au/ search?hl=en&q=%22deus+ex+machina%22+game+-automata+-spectru m&btnG=Search&meta=
Results: ~422,000

This search still has a lot of false positives though, since "deus ex machina" is a common phrase, and there's a website called "Deus Ex Machina" which is about the game "Deus Ex".

And now a search for "Deus Ex" the video game, omitting the terms Machina, Invisible and War, the acronym IW, and the phrase "the conspiracy" in an effort to remove references "Deus Ex Machina", the DX:IW series, and the PS2 version.

Search for "deus ex" game -machina -invisible -war -iw -"the conspiracy":
http://www.google.com.au/ search?hl=en&q=%22deus+ex%22+game+-machina+-invisible+-war+- iw+-%22the+conspiracy%22&btnG=Search&meta=
Results: ~602,000

This search has a lot of false negatives (since it's likely that multiple versions of the game will be mentioned on the same page, that people will point out the phrase "deus ex machina" as being related to it, and that the phrase "the conspiracy" will also appear a lot since there are more than enough conspiracies to go around in DX. Also, it completely omits any reference to the fan site "Deus Ex Machina" which would otherwise produce a lot of hits). Yet it still beats the other search by 50%. I win.

I'm currently running a search on my installation of Deus Ex (using TextPad, not Windows' crappy "find files containing text" feature) for the word "machina". It hasn't produced a single match yet. I'll post again when it's done.
In my opinion, back stories in games are rarely, if ever, a good idea. I'm working on a single-player game for BYOND, and I refuse to have something forcing the player to read about the backstory. I am going to have an encyclopedia of sorts so players understand more about the game if they wish, considering it's going to be a fairly big game with lots of things the player might not immediately pick up on (lol @ cultures of another planet), and this encyclopedia will have a description of the general story. Opening with a backstory can just ruin the ambience of the game, depending on how it's done.
Here we go - the search just finished.

There is no occurrence of the word "machina" (with any case) in any file in the entire Deus Ex game folder. That includes binary files. I think that's pretty conclusive. =)
Crispy, I already said you win. =(
Crispy said:
There's a guy standing by himself in Battery Park with a severe case of Grey Death. If you trigger enough snippets of conversation from him, eventually he groans "kill me!".

Okay. You got me. You caught me out... I don't talk to the NPCs, I shoot on sight. :(

I'm currently running a search on my installation of Deus Ex (using TextPad, not Windows' crappy "find files containing text" feature) for the word "machina". It hasn't produced a single match yet. I'll post again when it's done.

oh my god

Also which JC Denton did you play as? I selected the albino one. He looks more badass.
Deus Ex was the best. Invisible War wasn't terrible... but it had a severe case of sequel disease. Plus if you played as a male in Invisible War your voice was way too soft and gentle to be JC's brother (SPOILER don't read the text in front of this if you don't want to know the storyline), which is why playing as the white female is mandatory (playing as the indian/black version is kind of stupid because JC is ALBINO OK). Also the storyline was a tad silly. I love how everyone in the game, especially your own character was so laid back about finding out that you are JC's clone (and all the other 'shocking' discoveries in the game).
DX:IW was a bit of a joke. I did like the penguins though. Yay penguins.

I played as the default JC (Caucasian, dark hair), under the logic that the default skin must be the most canonical.
Crispy wrote:
Just to add insult to injury: GOOGLE FIGHT!

Technically speaking, the point of a fight is more along the lines of adding injury to insult.
You really know your stuff....

This has helped me get a new outlook on finding games I might want to play occasionally...
"The need to be observed and understood was once fulfilled by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms." - Morpheus (the AI construct from Deus Ex)
* JC Denton: "You've got 10 seconds to beat it before I add you to the list of NSF casualties."
Pimp: "Easy, bro', just havin' us a conversation."
JC Denton: "Five seconds."
Pimp: "Girl's got a head full of marbles. I HAVE to yell or she'd don't hear me."
JC Denton: "Three."
Pimp: "She schitzes on me it's my ass, man!"
JC Denton: "One."
Pimp: "All right! I'm goin'. Jesus."


=D http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Deus_Ex
Anna: "Are you sure you pressed the right button?"
Gunther: "I do not make mistakes of that kind."
Anna: "Your hand might have slipped."
Gunther: "No. I wanted orange. It gave me lemon-lime."
Anna: "The machine would not make a mistake..."
Gunther: "It's the maintenance man. He knows I like orange."
Anna: "So you think the staff has some kind of plot..."
Gunther: "Yes. They do it on purpose!"
Crispy wrote:
Anna: "Are you sure you pressed the right button?"
Gunther: "I do not make mistakes of that kind."
Anna: "Your hand might have slipped."
Gunther: "No. I wanted orange. It gave me lemon-lime."
Anna: "The machine would not make a mistake..."
Gunther: "It's the maintenance man. He knows I like orange."
Anna: "So you think the staff has some kind of plot..."
Gunther: "Yes. They do it on purpose!"

Heheh. Good old UNATCO, before Paul converted JC to his cause.

Crispy wrote:
DX:IW was a bit of a joke. I did like the penguins though. Yay penguins.

I played as the default JC (Caucasian, dark hair), under the logic that the default skin must be the most canonical.

DX:IW was kind of fun. I enjoyed being able to run up to everyone and beat the crap out of their face with a baton before they got a chance to shoot back.

Then, to fight the bots, I just load up the Melee EMP Damage biomod and circlestrafe.

You can beat the game without firing a single shot! :O
Crispy said:
Anna: "So you think the staff has some kind of plot..."

In some other related wiki article it mentions that if you're in the right place in Invisible War it'd revealed that the maintenence man WAS conspiring against Gunther.
Dang, you should've posted this on BYONDscape. This is absolutely golden material--as is the link to Coding Horror's rant on alert dialogs.
Elation wrote:
Crispy said:
Anna: "So you think the staff has some kind of plot..."

In some other related wiki article it mentions that if you're in the right place in Invisible War it'd revealed that the maintenence man WAS conspiring against Gunther.

Wierd, I never come across it. Is it on a datacube in the UNATCO Ruins on Liberty Island?

Lummox JR wrote:
Dang, you should've posted this on BYONDscape. This is absolutely golden material--as is the link to Coding Horror's rant on alert dialogs.

Heh, thanks. I considered making it into a BYONDscape article, but it's a bit rough and I didn't want to bother cleaning it up.

Elation - I never came across that either...
Seeing "The matrix has you" reminds me of when a high school friend did a netsend all with that message at school. Turns out we were on a much bigger network than we imagined, and they hadn't had a reason to block netsends yet. What fun.
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