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Keywords: design, newtopia
Bartley the Badger says, "Hi!" in Common.
The pert, pretty female Mouse says, "Shh!" in Common.
Bartley the Badger says, "What? Don't shush me!" in Common.
The pert, pretty female Mouse says, "Beings might be trying to read! Shh!" in Common.
Bartley the Badger quietly says, "Oh." in Common.
Bartley the Badger quietly says, "Who are you?" in Common.
The pert, pretty female Mouse quietly says, "I'm Amy. A pleasure! Who might you be?" in Common.
Bartley the Badger says, "I'm Bartley." in Common.
Amy the Mouse says, "Not so loud, Bartley!" in Common.
Bartley the Badger says, "Oh, shut up." in Common.
Amy the Mouse says, "Shh!" in Common.
If they are speaking the same language, what is the need to put what language it is?
Because people can understand two or more languages.
Elation is correct.

It's important to note that this is a freeform conversation typed into the command line, not a conversation done by choosing options out of a list or any other similarly gamey systems. It's impossible to determine what language all of the people around you are speaking, so the assumption is to show every language in case people aren't speaking Common.

However, I wonder how difficult it would be not to include the "in Common" part if the witness' current language is the same language, however. It would require a bit of finagling to get the event system to handle that. I'm not sure if the end result would be worth the effort or not.


Actually, now that I think about it, there's an amount of stuff for the player's records too. If the player never sees what language s/he is speaking, it would be all manner of confusing.
I'm really looking forward to this. Although I never really was a fan of Hedgerow Hall(didn't play it enough to say I was), this sounds really good. Any idea as to when it will be out?
My current policy is "no idea". I've been bitten in the ass by deadlines so many times that it's much safer for me conservatively to say "it will never be released" than to say "it will be released by February next year".

My estimates do put it around February, though. ;-)
Do you plan to have the Rabbit "thumping" method of communication in Newtopia?
Fo' sho'. The special skills include Thumping. Beavers and Rabbits will have access to it thanks to their Flat Tail and Big Feet innate traits respectively (naturally, Rabbits are the only one that'll be able to use it presently).
Will Beavers be able to understand rabbit thumping?
Yep, it's a Morse-type language. They use the same code. I'd rather not go around making a huge system to allow multiple signal languages for something that'll be used extremely rarely in the long run. =)
Freakin' mice. "Quiet as a mouse," they say, like that's any fun. But them mice aren't quite about shushing others! Now, them rabbits, they know how to have a good time!
What I meant was that if you're someone is talking to you in a language that you understand, it is obviously the one you are speaking, so you don't really need to know what one they're talking in.

Now, if the person can understand all languages they know, that system is pointless, which makes more sense and that's probably what you're doing, so I'm not sure why I'm writing this run-on sentence and pushing save in a moment. =P
Yeah, exactly. It's not obviously the one you're speaking because most people completely understand two languages at a minimum -- Common and their racial tongue. =)

Only beings with the Foreign trait (animals not brought up in a society that has adopted Common) and beings with the Sheltered trait (animals not brought up with the rest of their kind) will not have the Common language or the racial language respectively. I might actually have that backwards; it confuses the hell out of me sometimes... I need to find a better name for one or the other.
I find the "in common" thing annoying. I don't suppose some other way of letting people know it's a certain language could be done? Colors, perhaps?
The speech text is already brighter than the surrounding text, so the "in Common" part is actually subdued. Formatting isn't preserved in this blog entry.

The grammar is exactly as it was in Hedgerow Hall, by the way, and I didn't hear anyone complain about it then. ;-)
I actually like the language tag- it makes it clear which language the speaker is utilizing. Anything that streamlines information is good.

Perhaps you don't like the syntax? Maybe you would prefer:
Bartley the Badger says (Common), "I'm Bartley.".
Amy the Mouse says (Common), "Not so loud, Bartley!"
Dre the rat mutters (Rat), "Shut up you damnable mouse, I'm trying to eat a book over here in peace."
I like the 'in (language)' part, don't see why you guys are complaining about it. =(
A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs.
B is for Ben, mauled by bears.