Left, right, or backwards... it's just the wishy-washy "Oh look-- there's an issue loaded with some potential votes... I think that I'll take a stand on it!" type of politician that irks me.

to say that "she would have raked in millions anyway" is beside my point, i was simply responding to your comment in which you stated, "she would have erased the sex scandal before the game" or whatever it was...
and regardless, your fake opinions still make you a dumbass to me.
go listen to some more talk radio so they can force-feed you some more of "your" opinions, and get back to me.

You know, calling Hedge a dumbass is probably one of the dumbest things I have seen you do.
Idon't know her that well, but what I do know about her seems to point in the opposite direction of 'dumb'
And lets see, she listens to talk radio and the news and stuff (which you haven't proven she does), which gives her the oppurtunity to make an educated oppinion and you call her a dumbass and insincere?
How about you just shut up Tactics?

Anyway, back to the issue at hand.
"Left, right, or backwards... it's just the wishy-washy "Oh look-- there's an issue loaded with some potential votes... I think that I'll take a stand on it!" type of politician that irks me."
Same here. Besides, it has been out for long enough now that it won't make any difference. Those who want it, have it.
Of course, isn't doing whatever possible to get as many votes as possible what makes a politician?

p.s. that couldn't possibly have been the dumbest thing you've seen me do so far... remember the anime conversation that ended up with like 70 posts? ;)

no... that's not fun. it's lame.

listen. it's a fact that the clinton sex scandal made her what she is today. a fact. i dont care if you're Nostradamus(sp?), you can't tell me "well she would have been this powerful anyways, so your point isn't valid."
...excuse me? okay then, why don't you take another look into that crystal ball and let me know what you see in store for the apocalypse? ;) sure am looking forward to it. a little bit of notice "ahead of time" would make my planning for such an event much easier. maybe rent a DVD-cam and a space shuttle...
i seriously need to get back to work. i keep getting comments from my boss about all this typing.

"i keep getting comments from my boss about all this typing."
What is your job?

Uh, no, Nostradumbass... it's not a fact that the scandal made her what she is today, it is an opinion. It is your opinion, and your singularly ill-formed one at that.

No, I don't have a crystal ball... but neither do you... and you have as little basis for saying "If not for the sex scandal she'd be nothing!" than I do to say what I say. You have less, in fact, because mine is backed up by logic.

For your opinion to be correct, we would have to assume that Ms. Clinton just happened to hitch her star to a man who just happened to become the chief executive of a state and then the entire nation because she herself aspired to do nothing more with her law degree and experience than be a trophy wife and photo op prop... but when this scandal came along, she suddenly found herself in the spotlight and found that she liked it so she just decided to go with it?

Is that what you're saying? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.

If not... the only really obvious other parsing of your statements would be the suggestion that yes, she did want power, and she deliberately caused the scandal to be exposed, or otherwise encouraged it, because she knew it would get her what she wanted.

Well, there's two things wrong with that.

First, nobody, not even a shitty French poet that idiots think predicted the future (Nostradumas) could have guessed that such a lurid scandal would end up being such a windfall for Hillary. She could have just as easily been branded as a laughingstock for life, or marginalized as a woman who can't control her own household affairs, much less those of a state or country. If this was part of her plan, she's one hell of a gambler.

Second, if she is such a political mastermind that she could predict and control all the variables needed to make the scandal come to pass and make sure she gets some deferred lift from it... she could have come up with a plan that was less personally painful and embarassing. Don't tell me she doesn't really care about love or about Bill... that's, quite frankly, irrelevant. Even if she cares about nothing but power and appearance... she appeared powerless. Whether her marriage is a sincere statement of love, or merely a convenient showpiece, or any degree in between... neither "loving wife Hillary" and "conniving vixen Hillary" would have enjoyed 1) having her husband's sex life entered into the Congressional Record especially when 2) it didn't involve her.

So... to sum up, you're either saying the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal was a lucky break that completely changed the fate (so to speak) of shy and bashful Hillary Clinton, or you're suggesting she's an evil genius who manipulated the American government, people, and media for years on end... and the best plot she could come up with is "my husband had oral sex with an intern."

The prosecution rests.

Dumbass.

well, thanks for "putting those (8 paragraphs of) words in my mouth." that's exactly what i've always wanted. i hope a few more 14 year old goths and nerdy byond programmers stroke your ego for it just a *little* bit more, so you'll feel justified in driving to the convenience store across the street to buy your fat ass another ben'n'jerry's ice cream bar as a reward to yourself for your self-righteous oral diarrhea.

but, on a lighter note, leave it to my favorite columnist in the world, Mark Morford, to write an article that i believe we can all agree on:
http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/

have a nice day. bitch.

Ah... I can't help but notice that though you complain about what I say, you have no actual refutation to offer... you can't pinpoint any place where my logic actually fails... and you don't have any other interpretation for what you said than the ones I offered.

Let me show you how could correct me, if there was anything to correct:

First, I don't do any of this for an ego stroke. If I was merely saying things that I thought would win agreement and praise, I would be kowtowing to the dominant personality. What I say is either right or wrong... and if it's wrong, I expect--demand--it be contradicted. Nobody gains anything from mindless agreement by peons. It's just as pointless as people who attempt to argue their point by going "ha ha dumbass fat!"

Secondly, I don't drive anywhere, much less just across the street. I can see why your mind would go there, though. Doubtlessly like most people your age, you think any walk farther than the length of a driveway is "exercise." When you start walking ten miles a day and call it your "relaxation time", then you can talk.

Third, there's nothing self-righteous about what I'm saying. Am I holding myself up as some lofty example in the previous posts? No. I'm not even talking about myself. Am I acting like I'm above you? No. I'm holding myself to the same rigorous standards by which I have rejected your "argument."

Fourth, it's written. You could argue that it's verbal diarrhea, but not oral.

NOW that you see how a refutation is made... if you DO have an alternate explanation of what you meant, by all means, share it.

On the other hand, if you've got nothing... then just go ahead and show everybody by posting more "insults" that must really truly hurt the imaginary version of me that lives in your head eating ice cream while you
obsess about her ass.

have a nice day. bitch.

Already having one... and yes, I am.