Why?
Why is it alright to tell somebody they are stupid for believing one thing when it's not alright to tell somebody they are stupid for believing the opposite?
What I'm trying to say is that neither party is stupid, they just believe different things.
In a way, what you just said is that some people are stupid for not believing in things without some sort of proof. That's the entire reason someone is an atheist in the first place; that belief without a lack of proof wasn't good enough for them. You're essentially calling someone's atheism stupid.
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I absolutely love how these people obviously have no understanding of what they have read. They picked extremely minor incidents that semi-contradict each other. And that's going to happen when you read something put together by many authors over centuries.
If you're such a fool that you can't see the benevolent overtones of the bible then I can't understand how you could have passed second grade reading comprehension. But all that is not important. The reason I entered this in the first place was to say that insulting and ridiculing something that people base their lives around is not an honorable thing to do. Especially if you're like JP, and people who follow the very thing you're ridiculing are out right now building houses in mexico, running soup kitchens and helping orphans find families. While JP here sits on his fat ass and complains about it. | |
Worldweaver wrote:
I absolutely love how these people obviously have no understanding of what they have read. They picked extremely minor incidents that semi-contradict each other. And that's going to happen when you read something put together by many authors over centuries. I imagine I've read the bible more times than you've read any book in your life. I don't think half of the fucking bible is "an extremely minor incident." If you're such a fool that you can't see the benevolent overtones of the bible then I can't understand how you could have passed second grade reading comprehension. You never addressed my examples from earlier. What are the overtones in those again? But all that is not important. The reason I entered this in the first place was to say that insulting and ridiculing something that people base their lives around is not an honorable thing to do. But insulting and ridiculing people because they're better arguers than you on the internet is A-okay! Especially if you're like JP, and people who follow the very thing you're ridiculing are out right now building houses in mexico, running soup kitchens and helping orphans find families. And starting wars, killing innocent people, lying, stealing, and molesting young boys. You left those out. While JP here sits on his fat ass and complains about it. EVERYONE on the internet is fat. | |
I imagine I've read the bible more times than you've read any book in your life. I don't think half of the fucking bible is "an extremely minor incident." Insult + Unbacked statement = BYOND Argument You never addressed my examples from earlier. What are the overtones in those again? Isn't it painfully obvious! You're not allowed to hold a slave for more than six years, and then you have to let him go free. While slavery is brutal, this was good for the time it was written in. But insulting and ridiculing people because they're better arguers than you on the internet is A-okay! I only insulted JP twice, and that was after he had insulted me numerous times. You, I haven't insulted. And starting wars, lying, stealing... Notice, I said right now. The actions perpetrated by religion were horrible horrible things in the past, but now it does more good than harm. and molesting young boys. You left those out. That's not perpetrated by the religion. It's because of some perverted people becoming priests. EVERYONE on the internet is fat. Except uh, me and I'm sure a lot of other people. Oh, try to keep it civil from now on. | |
You are terrible at arguing and you are stupid.
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Vortezz said:
Call them stupid if you will, but at the same time, I could call you stupid for not having faith. You could, but you'd be wrong. =P Worldweaver said: That's not perpetrated by the religion. It's because of some perverted people becoming priests. Riiiight. =P There's a reason that preists of a religion that forbids them to have sexual lives end up getting arrested for being paedophiles. I think over the last 6 months two local vicars have been arrested for the same reason, heh. | |
TIME FOR SOME BILL HICKS TO LIGHTEN THE MOOD
* People say, "Bill, quit talking about Kennedy, man. It was a long time ago. Just let it go, all right? It's a long time ago, just forget it." I'm like, "All right, then don't bring up Jesus to me. As long as we're talking shelf life here …" | |
Riiiight. =PThere's a reason that preists of a religion that forbids them to have sexual lives end up getting arrested for being paedophiles. I think over the last 6 months two local vicars have been arrested for the same reason, heh. Well, it can't be that reason alone or every priest would be molesting little boys. | |
* Fundamentalist Christianity. Fascinating. These people actually believe the world is 12 thousand years old. Swear to God! Based on what? I asked them. "Well, we looked at all the people in the Bible, and we added them up all the way back to Adam and Eve, their ages – 12 thousand years." Well, how fucking scientific! Okay. I didn't know that you'd gone to so much trouble there. That's good.
You believe the world's 12 thousand years old? "That's right." Okay, I got one word to ask you. A one word question. Ready? "Uh-uh." Dinosaurs. You know, the world's 12 thousand years old and dinosaurs existed, and they existed in that time … you'd think it would have been mentioned in the fucking Bible at some point. "And lo, Jesus and the disciples walked to Nazareth. But the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurus … with a splinter in his paw. And O, the disciples did run a-shrieking: 'What a big fucking lizard, Lord!' But Jesus was unafraid, and he took the splinter from the brontosaurus's paw, and the big lizard became his friend. And Jesus sent him to Scotland where he lived in a loch for O, so many years, inviting thousands of American tourists to bring their fat fucking families and their fat dollar bills. And O, Scotland did praise the Lord: 'Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord.'" | |
Worldweaver said:
Well, it can't be that reason alone or every priest would be molesting little boys. No, it's the religion. I think you're forgetting that humanity is a very varied bunch of guys. Some people can resist the temptations of child porn (by going to the interracial/asian section of xxnx.com) and some people fall to the evils of the vegitable section or the shemale section. | |
* A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back, he ever wants to see a fucking cross? Kind of like going up to Jackie Onassis with a rifle pendant on, you know.
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Hahaha =P
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I think Bill Hicks just beat everyone in this thread and won the argument.
And Bill Hicks is dead. | |
Elation wrote:
And Bill Hicks is dead, But he came back to life through your quotations. :o | |
A bit like Jesus, then?
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Bill Hicks died in spite of your sins.
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Noam Chomsky on religion:
"You can find things in the traditional religions which are very benign and decent and wonderful and so on, but I mean, the Bible is probably the most genocidal book in the literary canon. The God of the Bible - not only did He order His chosen people to carry out literal genocide - I mean, wipe out every Amalekite to the last man, woman, child, and, you know, donkey and so on, because hundreds of years ago they got in your way when you were trying to cross the desert - not only did He do things like that, but, after all, the God of the Bible was ready to destroy every living creature on earth because some humans irritated Him. That's the story of Noah. I mean, that's beyond genocide - you don't know how to describe this creature. Somebody offended Him, and He was going to destroy every living being on earth? And then He was talked into allowing two of each species to stay alive - that's supposed to be gentle and wonderful." yeah what worldweaver said about benevolent overtones was pretty much wrong | |
Elation wrote:
yeah what worldweaver said was pretty much wrong | |
Ooooooh boy, are you going to get torn a new one from that line. o_o