ID:194361
 May 25 2001, 5:36 pm
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i just put a post in all of the newsgroups cantaining the words MUD or GAME so get ready to have hundreads of new players and coders looking to make there own games.. this means so meany posts on the newbie board all of us put together as a full time job could not answer them.. this will force more book sales.. (we should set up a secret baord for the oldbies...and me.. heh.. ok here is a copy of what i posted With this you can make any mud you want... from telnet to graphical! There are already alot of games useing this program... everything from online card games to dbz MUDs and 3D RPGs. And it really simple to do! The program is called Build Your Own Net Dream. if you want to download it or just cheak it out click on this link https://secure.dantom.com/welcomeBYOND.cgi?source=jobe The best thing about this is its compeatly free! I'm not getting paid a thing to get you to visit this sight! This is not an add and is not a scam! It is compleatly free!! I have made 2 differant games on with this and i have only downloaded it 2 weeks ago! Its simple! You have compleat control over every aspect of the game you make! ok a sorta lied about how long ago i got it.. and how meany games i have made (well i have started 9 so i guess that would make up 2 full ones..) | |
In the future please do not do this sort of thing. We have intentionally kept this project with a somewhat low profile, because we want it to be as stable as possible before we truly promote it. When the time is right, we'll do the spamming ourselves, with our own message.
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On 5/26/01 6:29 am Tom wrote:
In the future please do not do this sort of thing. We have intentionally kept this project with a somewhat low profile, because we want it to be as stable as possible before we truly promote it. When the time is right, we'll do the spamming ourselves, with our own message. sorry man but i thought thats what the refferals are for... hehe.. | |
sorry man but i thought thats what the refferals are for... hehe.. Referrals are designed to let you sign up your friends, co-workers, and family, and to get a little kickback if they buy something. Strangers are not referrals (and in fact, it is illegal to mass-message to gain referrals). As an example; in the "referrals" section of your resumé, you wouldn't put a total stranger there. You would put someone with whom you've worked with, gotten to know, and trust. Legally, you can put a small referral link at the bottom of every email you send and at the base of your webpage. But sending to anonymous personnel is improper. Anyway, just thought I'd bring that up. =) | |
On 5/26/01 11:44 am Spuzzum wrote:
sorry man but i thought thats what the refferals are for... hehe.. This is not accurate. Referrals are clearly designed to be used from web pages which strangers will access. The problem with jobe's approach is that he spammed a bunch of lists which in itself gives BYOND a bad name. If he were just doing the referrals from his website there would be no issue with that. | |
This is not accurate. Referrals are clearly designed to be used from web pages which strangers will access. i did no such thing... i did not use a spammer i did it all by hand... witch means i am not spamming but i am pasting the same message ONCE in all the forms i thought there would be peaple that would want it. in fact this (according to the UN i might add) is not spam as long as i only put one per form and i did it by hand AND i did not put it in ALL the forms (only the ones that are on topic). so you see its not really spam as much as it is letting everyone know your here.. | |
Give me your home phone number, and I'll call you twenty times tonight. I won't use an auto-dialer, I'll dial by hand, and since we post in the same forums, we clearly have similar interests, and thus, I can assume that you're interested in what I have to say.
On 5/26/01 2:11 pm jobe wrote: This is not accurate. Referrals are clearly designed to be used from web pages which strangers will access. | |
On 5/26/01 7:51 pm LexyBitch wrote:
Give me your home phone number, and I'll call you twenty times tonight. I won't use an auto-dialer, I'll dial by hand, and since we post in the same forums, we clearly have similar interests, and thus, I can assume that you're interested in what I have to say. What she said. Just because you do it by hand doesn't mean you aren't sending messages anonymously. Anyway, I have to argue my case-in-point to Deadron, now. =) | |
and at the base of your webpage. This is not accurate. Referrals are clearly designed to be used from web pages which strangers will access. I beg your pardon? =) | |
On 5/27/01 3:23 pm Spuzzum wrote:
and at the base of your webpage. Which part of my pardon are you begging? Dantom wants us to refer people from our web pages...strangers (who we don't even know!) will access our web pages and get to BYOND from there, so referring strangers is in the intended nature of the referral system. | |
On 5/27/01 3:22 pm Spuzzum wrote:
On 5/26/01 7:51 pm LexyBitch wrote: you dont get it.. its not spam.. i am not sending the same thing over and over.. well i am but not to the same newsgroup... if you called everyone on BYOND one time im sure most of them would not mind it so much.. | |
Dantom wants us to refer people from our web pages...strangers (who we don't even know!) will access our web pages and get to BYOND from there, so referring strangers is in the intended nature of the referral system. What I meant was, I had already said that. You can put it at the base of your email and on your webpage, but mass-messaging is wrong. | |
Legally, you can put a small referral link at the bottom of every email you send and at the base of your webpage. Spuzz already knows this, I'm sure--but if you have a decent webpage host, you can put the referral link wherever you want on the page, as many times as you want. (Hmm, wonder if the creator of the "Hampster Dance" page would be interested in linking all those little rodent graphics...) And of course I should mention that Dantom offers web page hosting for a very reasonable fee! <small>(Disclaimer: I'm not an employee of Dantom International--just a satisfied customer.)</small> | |
Spuzz already knows this, I'm sure--but if you have a decent webpage host, you can put the referral link wherever you want on the page, as many times as you want. (Hmm, wonder if the creator of the "Hampster Dance" page would be interested in linking all those little rodent graphics...) Yes, you can put links anywhere and everywhere you like, as long as you don't send to anonymous people without their permission. But, if someone accesses your webpage, then they have technically already given you their permission to view anything that you have placed within that page, whether or not they like what they see. That's one of the "loopholes" in the internet policy, actually. That means that regardless of what people want, any links and text you put on your webpage cannot be censored unless your webpage provider makes a rule against it. (Yes, even popups are legal in this case. I shouldn't have said this, though. =P) | |
That's one of the "loopholes" in the internet policy, actually. That means that regardless of what people want, any links and text you put on your webpage cannot be censored unless your webpage provider makes a rule against it. And a good policy it is--or would be, except it doesn't always hold true, at least for Americans. A news site that linked to the DeCSS source code found that out. However, I'm pretty sure the ruling permits you to remove the href tags so people have to cut-and-paste the address into their browser. My information may be out of date or just plain wrong, though... if so, my apologies. | |
On 5/27/01 5:14 pm Spuzzum wrote:
Spuzz already knows this, I'm sure--but if you have a decent webpage host, you can put the referral link wherever you want on the page, as many times as you want. (Hmm, wonder if the creator of the "Hampster Dance" page would be interested in linking all those little rodent graphics...) dude... there news groups.. there not EMAIL.. the entire point of them is communication with strangers.. and thats all it is really.. its like me posting a message on this board about red falcon or with a link to offical web site.. | |
On 5/27/01 4:23 pm jobe wrote:
if you called everyone on BYOND one time im sure most of them would not mind it so much.. Yeah, but if everyone on BYOND called everyone else on BYOND a single time, it would be pretty annoying. If you send a refferal to every related news group, what prevents each and every one of us from do the exact same thing? It would get BYOND a bad name quickly, even if each one of us only did it once per newsgroup. Leave the mass advertising to Dantom when they are ready. | |
the entire point of them is communication with strangers.. Being in-topic. and thats all it is really.. its like me posting a message on this board about red falcon or with a link to offical web site.. But you are an actual user of BYOND, so you actually have a certain lack of anonymity with us. If you post to a newsgroup where you don't regularly hang out and socialise, then you aren't being a productive member of their community. Sure, I don't know you, but I don't really consider you a total stranger when you post here. They would, however. What I'm trying to say is that you should post only to boards you know, where people know who you are. If they don't know you, it is your business to make them know you, not just to hock a post. =) I'm going to stop arguing on this end, since it takes two to argue. Feel free to retort! =) | |
What I'm trying to say is that you should post only to boards you know, where people know who you are. If they don't know you, it is your business to make them know you, not just to hock a post. =) actually i make posts and reply on over 100 newsgroups. all of the MUD (except one becase it dose not allow replys or posts that are not announcements..) and most of the gameing ones.. in fact there were only 20 groups i posted this on that i have never made a post on (befor this) | |
On 5/25/01 8:36 pm jobe wrote: