In response to InspectahDeck
InspectahDeck wrote:
and obvioulsy i can tell that you are a conformist. is this true nadrew? are you a conformist.


I suppose I am. But it's not a bad thing, is it? No didn't think so. I follow rules because I have respect for the people that made the rules, and I don't want to disrespect them by not following the rules. If I disagree with a rule I will voice my opinion, I fully agree with every rule Dantom has set for the forum. As I said before if you don't like it, leave!
In response to Lesbian Assassin
as my sophomore history teacher said "property isnt real"
In response to Nadrew
I see the humor... And I'm fairly certain that you and Lexy are different people...lol
In response to InspectahDeck
Hey, Nadrew's an easy target... try calling me a conformist and see how far you get. Anyways, you swear because everyone else swears... THAT's conformity. **** is just how your breed of sheep bleats.

Your comparisons aren't worth mentioning. The idea behind BYOND is bringing power to people... you can make whatever kind of game you want with it, free from any censorship. In order to keep this great program free, and open to everybody, the forum has to be presentable to everybody... including minors, people logging on at libraries and schools where content may be monitored (by programs or nosy teachers) for swearing, and so on. This "restriction" helps keep BYOND free.

Besides, if you have any kind of a vocabulary at all, you can get across any message without resorting to cursing.
In response to SuperSaiyanGokuX
drok...LOL I SAID DROK ITS SUPPOSTO BE DORK BUT ITS SPELLED DROK LOL LOL LOL FUNNIE FUNNIE...why do you think mistakes are funny you dont see a comedy on tv where someone mispells something and someone else laughs at it why? because its not funny either that or your a dork..
In response to GreenDice
No no no... You're just not getting the point...

We're not laughing at the mistake... We're laughing at the way Lexy pointed it out...

There's a difference... And if you can't see it...you're obviously the "drok"...
In response to Lesbian Assassin
Lesbian Assassin wrote:
Freedom of speech means you can say whatever you want and the government can't stop you. It doesn't mean you can walk into someone else's house and say whatever you want. This forum is someone else's property... we are all here only because Dantom has granted us the privelige to be here... it is only polite to obey their rules voluntarily. They didn't really put anything in place to enforce their rules consistently, because they assumed that people would appreciate BYOND enough to willingly go along with their wishes. People like Green Dice (and now you) have proven them to be wrong.

the u.s. government gave me the privelege to live where i do and gives me the right to say what i want. also, i was comparing this forum to a fascist government, where it is the dictator's (dantom) way or no way at all, hence mussolini! does anyone get that? if you dont see how dantom is controlling our every word that we say and everty move that we make on this forum, then you dont realize the fascist that is of this forum. mussolini asks people to go along with his wishes, and peopel didnt, so italy was able to get rid of him and become a better country. see what might happen when rebellions come.

This isn't about one swear word... this is about Green Dice repeatedly abusing the forum's community standards and ignoring warnings. Pretty soon, you won't see 30 posts asking people to stop swearing. You will see swears being removed... and if that's not enough, you will the swearers being removed as well.

once again, this forum shows it dictatorship. get rid of the people who use free speech (swearing). oh how i love dictators. MLK disregarded warnings and was able to get rights for black people. are you gonna tell me that MLK was right in his actions? well then the swearers are right in their actions. they haev to right to swear and they will express that right without having some fascist control them. i am now comparing these people to karl marx (saved the russians from fascism)

thank you for the oppurtunity to prove you wrong and realize your own faults. thank you!
In response to SuperSaiyanGokuX
"Of course it's a bad analogy. It's a terrible analogy. It's got nothing analogy-like about it. On the other hand, it's a wonderful metaphor. :P"

so your laughing at her pointing it out my point exactly..
In response to InspectahDeck
ooooooooooh crap! i am on someone's bad list on a forum! omg i hope they dont come and beat me up over posts on forums! why would i care to be on someones bad list. if i can get on it that easy, they dont accept opposite views and once again show their close mindedness. i love how your prove my posts without you know it, good stuff.

Again... you have no conception of what's going on here. Proving Lummox is closeminded is like proving the earth is round... and no, I'm not "proving your point without knowing it." I know Lummox is closeminded. Why else would I say it's easy to get on his bad list? Anyways, I've been as nice as I can to you... I thought you meant well but were just confused. I see now that you mean no better than Green Dice. This is my last post on the subject. I've always thought that deleting posts and banning posters should be a last resort, only after talking things through has failed... but some people aren't interested in listening.
In response to Lesbian Assassin
but he just toldme if i haev ever heard of censorship and was saying that this forum had it.

now your saying i am "free from any censorship". i like how you two contradict yourself!

thank you once again for proving my points. i love when people try to argue with me, but yet they are actually agreeing. good times.
In response to GreenDice
No we're laughing at how she worded it, it has nothing to do with you at all.
In response to Lesbian Assassin
Lesbian Assassin wrote:
ooooooooooh crap! i am on someone's bad list on a forum! omg i hope they dont come and beat me up over posts on forums! why would i care to be on someones bad list. if i can get on it that easy, they dont accept opposite views and once again show their close mindedness. i love how your prove my posts without you know it, good stuff.

Again... you have no conception of what's going on here. Proving Lummox is closeminded is like proving the earth is round... and no, I'm not "proving your point without knowing it." I know Lummox is closeminded. Why else would I say it's easy to get on his bad list? Anyways, I've been as nice as I can to you... I thought you meant well but were just confused. I see now that you mean no better than Green Dice. This is my last post on the subject. I've always thought that deleting posts and banning posters should be a last resort, only after talking things through has failed... but some people aren't interested in listening.

listening to what you hate cursing (obviously) so you dont care theres a rule against it. you say We as in alot of people when theres actually ive seen about 4 people who say "i respect dantom so i dont curse"
In response to Lesbian Assassin
karl marx and MLK didnt listen.and look what they did to both countries.

karl marx saved the russians from stalin

MLK got black rights.

amazing how far not listening can get you.

and this is your last post because you realized i haev defeated you.
In response to InspectahDeck
Dantom controls very little, actually, through their own choice... they prioritize working on BYOND itself. They take a hands off approach to the website and count on people to show good judgement and behave reasonably. It's only when someone repeatedly fails to do so that any action is taken at all. Before then, it's just talk and talk and talk, like this thread. THAT is freedom of speech.

Not letting you swear isn't "controlling your every action." The U.S. government does not give you the right to use an electronic messaging service in ways contrary to the wishes of the person or persons who maintains that sight. You have the freedom to come in here and abide by the rules, and you have the freedom to leave if you don't like it. It is the right of the server maintainer to choose those rules and how to enforce them. Dantom actually enforces their rules VERY leniently. One swear here or there hardly gets noticed. Green Dice doesn't swear once or twice or here or there... and it's not his swearing that is actually objected to. It's his whole attitude. He comes here just to pick fights... his swearing is part of that.
In response to Nadrew
since it was sparked by me yes it does have something to do with me
In response to InspectahDeck
Two people can't contradict themself... Nadrew says one thing, I say another. Why is that surprising? We're different people.
In response to GreenDice
GreenDice wrote:
you say We as in alot of people when theres actually ive seen about 4 people who say "i respect dantom so i dont curse"

You have no idea...
In response to GreenDice
I suppose you barely have a point there...

But either way...what she said was humorous... If she had just said "It wasn't an analogy, drok"...it wouldn't have been funny... But she worded it in a humorous manner...

But the reason it's funny to point out your mistake is because it wasn't just a mistake... A simple mistake would be something like a typo... I could accidenatlly misspell a word (in fact...I just did with "accidentally"...lol)...but since I really know how it is spelled and can do it correctly...it's obvious that it was a simple mistake and it wouldn't be funny to point it out...

But there you were...trying to act smarter than Lexy and point out that she had made a bad "analogy"... Obviously trying to prove your "superiority" to her...

So she made a rather funny comment to correct you...
In response to InspectahDeck
InspectahDeck wrote:

thank you for the oppurtunity to prove you wrong and realize your own faults. thank you!

So Dantom = Mussolini? Nice.

Look, buddy, we're spending a lot of our own time and money attempting to create a community here. Many of the long-time users here have contributed their time and money to the cause as well, which is why we have an inclination to give them the doubt when arguments come up.

You can call us dictators or fascists or whatever you want, but the truth is most of the world works this way. People set up rules (in school, the workplace, and what-not) and others may either follow them or go do their own thing. If you don't like the rules we've setup here, you are more than welcome to leave. Or you can simply abide by our meager requests and realize that you are getting a pretty good deal here.

Frankly, all of these complaints and arguments are putting me in a sour mood, which means that I'm likely to code in some bugs into the next release of BYOND, which hurts everyone in the long run.

Just try to realize that we are doing our best here, and it only makes our life difficult when people post stuff like this and anger other members of the community. The standards were put in place to attempt to keep the discussion civil here and try to keep the most people happy. There's a reason why anarchist societies don't succeed, ya know.
In response to Lesbian Assassin
Lesbian Assassin wrote:
Dantom controls very little, actually, through their own choice... they prioritize working on BYOND itself. They take a hands off approach to the website and count on people to show good judgement and behave reasonably. It's only when someone repeatedly fails to do so that any action is taken at all. Before then, it's just talk and talk and talk, like this thread. THAT is freedom of speech.

freedom of speech is also including the 4 letter curse words thusly named CURSE words you say them when your angry...people have said they think epople who curse are ignorant...well...let them be ignorant after all ignorance is bliss.
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