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U need to have something so u can vote for you favorite game. Here I'll start a simple and basic one.

Best Game of All Time(all U have to do is say which is the best game u have played for each section then I'll Choose the top 3 and U can vote for it later.

Codesterz Gaming Contest
Sorry there Is no prize for the winners Maybe Next Time. I plan to do this once every 3 months.
U only can vote for Byond games


Best RPG (No DB/Z/GT Games)

Best Action/Shooter

Best RTS(Real Time Strategy)

Best Chat Game

Best Graphics

All Time best Game

Best Game Creator or Team

Those are the choices. (I'll vote now) Please right the creator if u know it
-----Oh yeah U can't vote for your self or your own game


Best RPG (No DB/Z/GT Games)
The Lost Realm: Medieval Legen by LostRealm
Best Action/Shooter
Bizlof War by Malver
Best RTS(Real Time Strategy)
Iron Dogs: Ascension by WildBlood
Best Chat Game
animeChat by Silver.destiny XL50
Best Graphics
The Lost Realm: Medieval Legen by LostRealm
All Time best Game
Realm of Mordor by RaeKwon
Best Game Creator or Team
RaeKwon
I believe Ebonshadow made something like this with voting, except his was all the BYOND games, and the topics you selected are sort of outrageous, considering this is gonna be nothing more then people battling out over each other for which opinion is better even though nobody can win since opinions can't be measured, I'm still gonna reply. I also find it strange how people are so accustomed to the DBZ games that you give them their own category. Why don't you just give a category for everything else. Lets see, best Hedgerow Hall game? Maybe best Tanks game? I don't care but no matter how many DBZ games there are, its absurd that you make them their own category. In my opinion all DBZ games are the best of their type, since they are all rip offs of each others.[EDIT]: Truth be told, Ebonshadow(Who must be mentioned again!) probably made the best DBZ game(Forgot what it was called, real popular at the time though, when very few DBZ games were exsisting), considering it was one of the first, to bad it was only the birth of thousands of satan spawn games.


<<>>Kusanagi<<>>
In response to Kusanagi
I know but Over half of the Games are DBZ. And some or made differently. If you want I could get rid of that Category.
In response to Codesterz
Pretty please with sugar on top, do that.


<<>>Kusanagi<<>>
If there had to be a DBZ category, couldn't it be "Least bad" instead of "Best"? That would be closer to the truth, while also reflecting the vast majority of the community's opinion on DBZ. (That is, once you cull out the opinions of the DBZers, which don't count for anything.)

Lummox JR
In response to Kusanagi
It's Gone. Are you going to vote???
In response to Codesterz
Thanks.


Best RPG (No DB/Z/GT Games): Havn't really played any worthy of a good title, they all seem the same so I pledge them all as the best.

Best Action/Shooter: Bizlof of War

Best RTS(Real Time Strategy): All the Iron Dogs

Best Chat Game: Bobjr's Kirby one

Best Graphics: Living Dead

All Time best Game: Hedgerow Hall

Best Game Creator or Team: Deadron's Team(If that is a team, and whatever its called. Deadron Productions or something like that.)


<<>>Kusanagi<<>>
In response to Lummox JR
Need more votes. Votes will be closing in 24 hours. Starting now.
People why won't u vote.
In response to Kusanagi
Kusanagi HRH is a role playing game (rpg)
In response to Kusanagi
Kusanagi wrote:
Best Action/Shooter: Bizlof of War

Bizlof War

Bah, trying to misspel---

Oh, thanks for the vote. ;D
In response to Lummox JR
Dear Lummox, you like all of those whose "Opinions actually count". I want you to explain something.

What is wrong with Dragonball Z as a famous series besides the fact that one guy makes a game that has nothing to actually do with it other then name reference, then it is copied. What is wrong with the series itself is what I am asking here.

Most of your community members who "Count" have no other reason to dislike it aside from the misinterpreted games on this cursed system. I, myself, am a deep fan of Dragonball and Dragonball Z animes. But not of BYOND games, and im sure a majority of those who take time to judge, do so on the general theme rather then the poor coding, interpretation, and lack of maturity most of these newbies show.I find these BYOND games as general attacks on the actual series rather then an actual FAN GAME.

Also, The only reason people create these DBZ copies is because they are simple coded and were one of the only things distributed freely throughout byond.

But I ask again, what is wrong with Dragonball Z, what makes it so bad that you must stain it's name by referring to these "PUNKS" as DBZers. This general ignorance makes me look down upon this community more and more each day in pity, as it is no better then a highschool, which is very saddening based on the average age.

If I am missing something, please point me in the right direction, and if your going to opinionize this thread, at least back it up with a form of proof and a fact here and there, rather than starting a flamewar, which it looks most of you are trying to achieve.

--Ken--

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In response to NeoHaxor
NeoHaxor wrote:
Dear Lummox, you like all of those whose "Opinions actually count". I want you to explain something.

What is wrong with Dragonball Z as a famous series besides the fact that one guy makes a game that has nothing to actually do with it other then name reference, then it is copied. What is wrong with the series itself is what I am asking here.

To take that question seriously one has to start from the premise (flawed, I think) that anime doesn't suck.

But I was referring not to fans of the series, but to the stereotype. This is what people mean when they say "DBZer". They're talking about the losers who think a "pbag" should be in every game, spend 18 hours hitting their macro keys so they can train up to 30 bazillion plvl, etc. This stereotype accurately covers about 97% or more of the series' fans--just not all of them.

Most of your community members who "Count" have no other reason to dislike it aside from the misinterpreted games on this cursed system. I, myself, am a deep fan of Dragonball and Dragonball Z animes. But not of BYOND games, and im sure a majority of those who take time to judge, do so on the general theme rather then the poor coding, interpretation, and lack of maturity most of these newbies show.I find these BYOND games as general attacks on the actual series rather then an actual FAN GAME.

Also, The only reason people create these DBZ copies is because they are simple coded and were one of the only things distributed freely throughout byond.

I'm not sure I follow that first paragraph, but basically this is all irrelevant to what I was saying.

But I ask again, what is wrong with Dragonball Z, what makes it so bad that you must stain it's name by referring to these "PUNKS" as DBZers. This general ignorance makes me look down upon this community more and more each day in pity, as it is no better then a highschool, which is very saddening based on the average age.

It's ignorance to have failed to realize by this point, since it's been said a million times over, that the term "DBZer" does not refer to all fans of the series.

I don't like the series, it's true, because I detest anime in all its forms, and by extension manga. And don't feed me that crap about there being good anime and bad anime--what I hate about it is the stupid artistic conventions like the big giant eyes and the triangular jaws, mouths that come in 3 shapes and frame rates of a whopping 3 frames per minute. Most or all of these things are shared by all anime, not just the worst of it; the worst just happens to be more obnoxious. And this is to say nothing about the plots, which tend to be convoluted and make no sense, as even fans of the pseudogenre will usually admit.

But to think that I'm stomping on DBZ just because I use the term "DBZer" is to totally miss what I'm talking about. When I stomp on DBZ I do so explicitly; when I stomp on the twits who make up the vast majority (BUT NOT ALL) of its fan base, I use terms like "DBZer" to describe them collectively.

If I am missing something, please point me in the right direction,

You are. As stated above, "DBZer" does not equate to "DBZ fan". It is a subset--just a very big one. And I wasn't lumping you into it.

Lummox JR
In response to Lummox JR
umm theres a thing on byond bwicki about DBZers Vs DBZ fan.. il try find the link
In response to Lummox JR
Lummox JR wrote:
I don't like the series, it's true, because I detest anime in all its forms, and by extension manga. And don't feed me that crap about there being good anime and bad anime--what I hate about it is the stupid artistic conventions like the big giant eyes and the triangular jaws, mouths that come in 3 shapes and frame rates of a whopping 3 frames per minute. Most or all of these things are shared by all anime, not just the worst of it; the worst just happens to be more obnoxious. And this is to say nothing about the plots, which tend to be convoluted and make no sense, as even fans of the pseudogenre will usually admit.


If your going to judge something based on looks then you detest most of the people who exsist. I myself am a fan of some anime shows and movies, DBZ isn't really my thing though, its storyline is bland and stupid in my opinion but then there are others who can be offended by my opinion. I don't see really whats wrong with some anime though, the story on some of them appeals to me more then some of the crappy "works of art" at the movies right now. I don't really know of many shows with real people offering dark settings in a blues type world set in the distant future, or a world where synthetics is the way of life and even entire humans are created from synthetics to work for police forces and armies. Please direct me to a movie thats non-anime and deals with a small group of people each from different cultures and backgrounds who have to follow the memories of their ancient culture in order to destroy a demonic fiend who stole 4 crystals that guarded the earth and is using them to power mechanical machines that will allow him to become a god. Animation might make it seem like an anime, but the story and how its brought out it what makes it good.... It's very hard to reproduce most scenes with physical actors, so people do it through a form of animation besides, it's cheaper and easier, and anime sometimes gives it a cartoon feeling, but not for kids. The only problem with DBZ is that it should have never been released to America, considering its original idea was to be adult entertainment dealing with mass destruction and nudity, along with many profound cuss words. I doubt most parents would allow their kids to watch it if they knew what really happened in the episodes before they were cut.


<<>>Kusanagi<<>>
In response to Kusanagi
Kusanagi wrote:
If your going to judge something based on looks then you detest most of the people who exsist.

Get off it right there. It's not people I'm judging for their looks; this is (arguably) a form of art, and as such I'm perfectly able to form an opinion of the style. I have every right to like or dislike it based on the conventions within, just as a person may prefer realist paintings to impressionism, and despise cubism.

Art and entertainment can and will be judged on looks, and style. There's nothing at all wrong with that.

I don't see really whats wrong with some anime though, the story on some of them appeals to me more then some of the crappy "works of art" at the movies right now.

Looking for artistic comparisons with modern cinema is mostly a wasted effort. Hollywood's highest works of art are mostly in the past, and many (like Casablanca) resulted from pure serendipity. Partly that's because art is to be treasured but artsiness is not.
I don't think anime falls into the trap of trying to get artsy, but I think it's because the soil is too infertile for the weed of pretention.

I don't really know of many shows with real people offering dark settings in a blues type world set in the distant future, or a world where synthetics is the way of life and even entire humans are created from synthetics to work for police forces and armies. Please direct me to a movie thats non-anime and deals with a small group of people each from different cultures and backgrounds who have to follow the memories of their ancient culture in order to destroy a demonic fiend who stole 4 crystals that guarded the earth and is using them to power mechanical machines that will allow him to become a god.

Shuffle the pieces around a little and you have a Godzilla flick. The plot lines are all basically Japanese lore. That can be good or bad, of course, according to taste. It's not my taste in particular. But as I said, most fans of the genre are willing to admit that aside from synopses like that, it doesn't make sense.

Animation might make it seem like an anime, but the story and how its brought out it what makes it good.... It's very hard to reproduce most scenes with physical actors, so people do it through a form of animation besides, it's cheaper and easier, and anime sometimes gives it a cartoon feeling, but not for kids.

I think you're under the mistaken impression that I'm criticizing works of anime for being cartoons. I am not. I'm criticizing them for drawing and animation conventions so terrible that they drag down the good name of cartoondom. And I'll grant that some non-anime cartoon styles (like a lot of Cartoon Network's new stuff) aren't significantly better in that sense, but I think anime's problems eclipse all other forms.

Could the same story be done with decent animation in something approaching the realism and artistic depth of, say, 1940's Warner Bros. cartoons? Perhaps it could. I probably still wouldn't care for the story, but I'd respect the entire project a lot more.

The only problem with DBZ is that it should have never been released to America, considering its original idea was to be adult entertainment dealing with mass destruction and nudity, along with many profound cuss words. I doubt most parents would allow their kids to watch it if they knew what really happened in the episodes before they were cut.

I wouldn't say that's the only problem--again, this idea is founded in the premise that anime doesn't suck.
But I'll grant you that whittling down the plot and dialogue from the original would naturally harm the result. Japanese culture takes a much different attitude toward what sorts of things they're willing to show children, even though I doubt kids were the intended audience.

And I'll agree that it should never have been released to America, but for a lot more reasons than you stated.

Lummox JR
In response to Lummox JR
Lummox JR wrote:
And I'll agree that it should never have been released to America, but for a lot more reasons than you stated.

Lummox JR


Maybe this will sum it down, rampant brainwashing.


<<>>Kusanagi<<>>