Alright, I'm admittedly a Harry Potter fan (it was actually my mother that got me into it)... So the two of us went to see the second movie Saturday night...
My review? Every bit as good as the first... Excellent adaptation of the book...
I'm very anxiously waiting the next one... And even more anxiously waiting for movie 4... And even more anxiously waiting for book 5...lol
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 Nov 18 2002, 8:57 pm
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I suppose you have to be a fan of the books to truly appreciate the movies... For instance, I don't need any character development because I already know all about everyone from reading the books... So for me, the movies were just about perfect... They brought the books to "life" in just the way I wanted them to...
As for LoTR... I must agree with you on that one... The Two Towers will blow Harry Potter out of the water...lol | |
I think it's hilarious that you call yourself SuperSaiyanGokuX, but feel the need to explain/apologize for liking Harry Potter...
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Well this is kinda off topic yet somehow on topic, last night i went to go watch 28 Days Later, and gawd damn thats a good film.
i jumped outta my seat and pants so many times through out the film. everyone GO and WATCH 28 DAYS LATER!! :P | |
ChosenSlayerBuffyX wrote:
I think it's hilarious that you call yourself SuperSaiyanGokuX, but feel the need to explain/apologize for liking Harry Potter... Hmmm... I didn't notice him apologising anywhere as to liking Harry Potter. So where did you come up on this? Also, I seem to be wondering why you said that noticing that your Key was forged today... The reason being is because it is somewhat similar written as to SuperSaiyanGokuXs Key... Don't get me off here as though I am being offensive or what not, because I am not. --Lee | |
It's in his tone:
Alright, I'm admittedly a Harry Potter fan (it was He has to "admit" to being a Harry Potter fan, and then present his excuse for it. I find it funny, since I've seen no evidence that Dragonball is actually aimed at a more mature audience than Harry Potter is. Before everyone jumps to point out the violence and the swearing that I'm given to understand are in the original source material, I'd like to point out I said "mature". Having unrealistic, overly cartoony characters swear doesn't exactly raise any bars. As for my key, no big secret... this is Lexy. I assumed everyone would figure out who I am. I bought a new computer and made myself a key to "christen" it. The name was chosen as a sort of parody of fan communities in general... I've never, ever seen the logic of going into a chatroom devorted to fans of a particular thing and naming yourself after a character (or, gag me with an infinitely expanding universe of spoons, multiple characters)... I tend to choose nicks that will make me stand out or highlight some facet of my individual personality. Although the obvious direct inspiration for this name was SSGX (because I was composing a reply to him), it's not just DBZ... it's a universal phenomenon. Anyway, my main point is, if Harry Potter is so great, why does he feel the need to make excuses? He's trying to talk the movie up, but he'd do a better job of it if he would just skip the metaphorical coughing and shuffling of feet. I say this as someone who really enjoyed the first movie. | |
Yea, why the hell should people have interests of any type, or even better, why should they show that they like something when their only going to be attacked verbally, either stealthly or openly, and why do we have fans that try to show that they like something? He was probably "Admitting" to liking Harry Potter, because apparently his like for DBZ(like my own) is a horrible sin in this community and maybe he tried to let out his new found interest sleekly with hopes of not being attacked by someone who likes "Different" things, apparently difference is another sin, that's two strikes for this community. The way opinions and vocabulary/grammar use are treated on this forum will lead to another Dareb, who will attempt to start up their own little nazi-like clan on these forums. Opinions are never safe, and stating them anywhere is like wearing a giant "Kick Me" sign on your forehead.
This has been a bit of a pet-pieve of mine.. --Ken-- | |
Hey, you stated your opinion, *kick* =P
Dareb, did something happen to him? I haven't seen him post on these forums recently, did I miss sonething? | |
There's nothing wrong with stating an opinion or displaying your interest... no one attacked SSGX for liking Harry Potter or saying he likes Harry Potter... I was questioning his reluctance to admit liking it. That reluctance has nothing to do with BYOND and everything to do with the fact that it's a children's (actually, I'd say it's targeted at pre-teen to young adult but could be enjoyed by anyone old enough to understand it) book series.
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Im sorry but I felt then would be the best place to let it out, I did get a small feeling of this from your statement that your opinions were made to antagonize his own, but Im guessing what you really meant didnt stand out as much in my reading. This really wasnt made as an offense but a type of "State the obvious to get it out of your system", as I said it was a building-up pet pieve.
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She's right... The way I worded that is rather apologetic...
And the irony she noticed is rather apparent...lol But oh well, before I was a fan of the books, I saw them as being children's books... And even now after I see that they're much deeper than that, I still retain some "shame" in enjoying them...lol But I still must argue that DBZ's target audience is a bit higher than that of Harry Potter... But yes, it's definitely still a children's show... I would say that they're both at least at a level of maturity that allows people above their target audience to enjoy them... I see depth in DBZ that most "outsiders" miss out on... Same with Harry Potter, I would guess... But yeah, I suppose I still carry some sort of shame over liking Harry Potter... I don't know where the difference lies that allows me to openly convey my fandom of DBZ, but remain "shuffling my feet" at conveying my fandom of Harry Potter... But it's there somewhere... Oh well... As for the phenomenon of naming oneself after a character instead of something more original... I suppose my excuse is that my fandom of DBZ is one of the most outstanding facets of my personality, hobbies, traits, etc... So, this is the best name to convey something "original" about me... Something important to me above most other things... I definitely didn't want to name myself "DanRockwellX" or "Dan121680" or "Dan99" or whatever else most people do... Or pick some random word I made up on the spot... And I don't have any nicknames in real life that I'm willing to use on the net...lol So the only suitable screen name to me was one that had something to do with DBZ... And Goku has been my favorite character from the beginning, so this was the only name I wanted to use... I feel that it does show an important facet of myself... Being a fan of DBZ is important to me, so this name is important to me... As much as "Lesbian Assassin" shows an important facet of your personality and lifestyle... And I would guess that that is the case with most other people that choose names based on existing works... | |
I think he's bugging off, but he just posted here on the 15th, so it's most likely he isn't banned or anything. Then again, bugging off is nothing permanent.... Once I started the new school year this year I bugged off for a while but popped back in no time!
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I would say that they're both at least at a level of maturity that allows people above their target audience to enjoy them... I see depth in DBZ that most "outsiders" miss out on... Same with Harry Potter, I would guess... If I look into the sky on a partly cloudy day, I can see lots of things where other people would just see clouds. That makes me more imaginative, not necessarily more perceptive. As for the overall subject of this thread, much as I enjoyed the books, this one in particular I could do without. The character of Gilderoy Lockheart is a truly appalingly bad one--the books tend towards pretty straightforward characters to begin with, but for the most part they're handled pretty elegantly. Not only is Lockheart's character even more shallow (most varieties of paper stock, for example, are more three-dimensional) but it's also a more thoroughly irritating one to begin with. Moreover, maybe I'm just making associations in my mind that aren't actually there, but Lockheart seems fairly analogous to the book as a whole--much moreso than any of the other books, it seems to be trying to sell itself to the reader. Sure, it does get better towards the end, and the series as a whole recovers satisfactorily (although for general feel, I think the first one has the rest of them beat), but on the whole I've still always found it disappointing. | |
my opinion. I never really liked harry potter. He looks too much like a nerd and i didnt like the story line that well.
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I didn't mean that I was more perceptive in that comment about seeing depth in DBZ... Nor am I imagining it... Compared to the general outsider's idea of the show, one who is more familiar with it knows of story elements that go deeper than "good guy fights bad guy, good guy wins, repeat"... Things that the casual viewer of a handful of episodes, or anyone only passingly familiar with the show doesn't get the chance to see...
Yes, the show definitely isn't the deepest piece of fictional work in the world, but it's at least on par with many of the popular American Super Hero comics...and a good deal of other serial cartoons... As for Harry Potter: Lockheart is supposed to be as shallow as possible... That's the character... He's one big joke, essentially... Yes, as you pointed out, the other characters are fairly shallow as well, but he's supposed to stand out as the most shallow...lol And he's supposed to be irritating as well... And judging by your glowing review of those aspects, Rowling was successful...lol But I do agree with you in that this book is my least favorite... But that's not to say that I think it's bad... I just prefer the other 3... With number 4 being the top of my list (number 5 might top that, whenever it's finally published)... | |
Zlegend2 wrote:
He looks too much like a nerd That's sort of the point...lol He's a little geeky kid who's been bullied all of his life by his "relatives" that one day discovers that he's destined for greatness... He finds out that there's whole hoardes of people out there that think of him as a famous hero and a legend, and that his horrible life of being downtrodden is over... He rises from being nothing to being a hero... It's a great premise that is carried out quite well... But, if that's not your thing, I can understand that and respect your opinion... Everyone has their own tastes... | |
i might be going this weekend with some friends...
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As for Harry Potter: Lockheart is supposed to be as shallow as possible... That's the character... He's one big joke, essentially... Yes, as you pointed out, the other characters are fairly shallow as well, but he's supposed to stand out as the most shallow...lol And he's supposed to be irritating as well... Successful in making me want to put the book down (something that for all [other] intents and purposes I do not do [voluntarily] once I get into a book/series)? Successful in making me start to think the first book was some sort of fluke from a hack author (and not the good kind of hack author)? Successful in convincing me that the series was in fact a series of kiddie books rather than the insightful, touching whimsical adventure that I had originally taken it for? Oh, yes, Rowling was very successful. The purpose of the character (of which I was already largely aware, thank you) does not reflect in any way on how well done the character is--the sort of exaggerated, beat-you-over-the-head obvious writing that went into the character is the sort of stuff one would expect to find in a more typical book aimed at the preadolescent crowd, and it was that sort of expectation which kept me well away from the Harry Potter series right up until the first movie. | |
Leftley wrote:
If I look into the sky on a partly cloudy day, I can see lots of things where other people would just see clouds. That makes me more imaginative, not necessarily more perceptive. What do you see? -- Is it pictures made out of clouds? If so then you see what I see when I look into the sky of a clear, yet a little cloudy. I could make a list of all the things I have seen, yet it would be extremely irrelevant here haha. --Lee | |
Besides, after seeing the amazing job that LOTR: Fellowship did to bringing a fantasy world to the big screen, Harry Potter kind of pales in comparison. When "The Two Towers" comes out most people over the age of 12 will forget about "The Chamber of Secrets."