He does have a point, police sometimes need violence. You dont see cops busting into a house full of terrorists and just asking them to go to jail.
-DogMan

True true , But if some idiot was following me and he kept it up the next day and the next i'd go up talk to him if he keeps it up I would be the crap out of him for feeling threatened

Mechanios wrote:

True true , But if some idiot was following me and he kept it up the next day and the next i'd go up talk to him if he keeps it up I would be the crap out of him for feeling threatened

At least in the US, you begin to think twice about "beating the crap out of someone" as you get closer to being 18 years old. Violence is an immature solution, especially if this person is just following you. The cops probably can't do anything about it, they are there to (most of the time) punish people, not prevent crimes.

i'd go up talk to him

I'd imagine that would be an awkward conversation.

"Excuse me sir, are you stalking me?"
"Yes, I mean er, no, I'm not stalking you."
"Phew, you had me scared for a second there."
*They pull a knife on you*

Dareb wrote:

The death penalty by law is the ultimate oxymoron

I thought Microsoft works was...

Dareb your very foolish if you believe that Vigilantism is a good thing it is by far a good thing Vigilantism often turns into Racism and other steriotyping that can turn these supposed Good doers into Ruthless killers Im also pretty sure the Police would rather have you become a Police officer rather then a Vigilante, Think things threw Dog man is very lucky that nothing happened to him as lexy said he could of been beaten up or killed himself by this person, also Darebs theory on Not killing anyone by rather beating the living crap out of them to point of near death is very stupid and immature, I think most people would rather be dead then sitting in a hospital paralyzed maybe even brain dead, also how would you go about beating somone up to near death? In the process of trying to do this you would most likely kill them.

Just remember Theres always somone stronger then you and always somone weaker then you.

Well, I don't make a paycheck, but I do things for my parents when they ask. They may not be perfectly legal, but it earns me money. I get about 40$ per "job" from outsiders and about 20$ for when I do these "jobs" for my parents. The work is mainly graphical, doctoring scans of stuff and printing them. For example, I was asked to make a t-shirt logo for my father's business, so I did. I made about 10 sheets of 6 logos for him, then applied the iron-ons to the shirts. It may take more brain-power than flipping burgers and taking orders at Mickey D's, but it isn't humiliating.

I did somthing like what Mertek did but I worked for my Dad in his IT department for about a week or so at a time earning 50-100$ for installing OS, moving computers, fixing computers, among other things I also got an accounting job from one of my Dads friends who owns a company and hired my sister, half-sister and some other teenagers to create a promo for his company, I made 50$ a week all summer which was pretty good money currently im looking into getting a Job at Radio shack, Electronics boutique or maybe as a last resort Mcdonalds I have nothing against working at mcdonalds i Think it would be a good start to get you on your way but I think you should also try to find a job that suits your interests so that you wont get bored with your first job then think the rest of your jobs will be like that and it will be a major drag, I figure if you can find a Job you like you will work harder and get promoted and do well in it where as a job you dont really care for could make you work worse and possibly get fired, for example my Fathers first job was being a Clerk at our Churchs stake center one day they got a computer there and he figured out how it worked and later on wrote a accounting program with a man in florida, Now my father has a MBA(Masters of business administration I believe) and is Director of an IT department. So Do what you enjoy and you will go far ^^

ok. so.. take a step back here.

Illigalize all violence then..


*An enormous genie comes down from roiling clouds and grants the wish*

-All violence is now illigalized-

Everything is well, Until

Sunday Night

Sports fans around the world huddle up to their TV sets to watch the game. the masses pack into the stadium to watch the event. Not 2 minutes into the game does the first tackle occur. POOF! POOF! POOF! One by one the would be tacklers are sent to prison!.

Its unbelievable, the fans are going wild. the coach doesnt know what to do. the fans want their money back. then the first punch is thrown. Would-be Innocents, fathers, mothers. Many are sent to prison for a crime they did in fact commit.

Monday Morning. Power is off in many areas. fast food restaurants are closed, grocery stores are shut down..

It continues this way until every last man woman or child either starve to death or are in prison.


Now. as strange as this whole story sounds it does have a point. even though illigalizing violence overall wouldnt be reasonable.civilazation thrives, grows, expands upon violence of different forms.

Sex is a violent act.
Arguing is a violent act
Shouting is a violent act

There is violence everywhere, in everything. So why do we condemn it so much?

All we have are morales, faith, and the law to keep us on the straight and narrow. we slip at times, we all do.

some people have rough lives, they know no other way to survive than through violence. so much so that it becomes an addiction.

I know these all intimately. why else would I be so passionate about my beliefs?

I may only be 21, but ive experienced alot through friends and their experiences. family and friends, people i talk to. they become an extension of my life and its experiences. its mine and theirs' collective beliefs that drive me to think this way. I look for the overall best way to deal with things. I put myself in the shoes of criminals when thinking about their punishment. i try to put myself into having a 5 year sentance slapped on me, and still have people screaming at me. I picture them and see a murderer, yet i know they are scared.

it can be anyone. I know they look at everyone as they are put away, its at first frustration, but it soon turns to anger towards everyone.

We as free citizens really are far too vocal about things. we really dont need to be. this is different as its written, not in public where the "criminal" will eventually be going past.

There are far too many factors and I could go on all night, im afraid this has gone on too long and my fingers are cramping up.

First of all, what the heck does this post have to do with OneFishDown congratulating Sariat on his first day on the job?


Dareb wrote:

ok. so.. take a step back here.

Illigalize all violence then..

That's a rediculous notion, and completly without logic, as most of your rediculous notions are. You can't sanely argue for criminalization of all violence, so you wave it in people's faces as if it somehow makes you right, and less psychotic. You're the one who first suggested that that was what we were saying, proving that you aren't actually reading, or comprehending, what has been said. According to your beliefs this allows me to beat the snot out of you. As satisfying as that may sound, I'll use better judgement, and just resort to ripping this post apart verbally.

civilazation thrives, grows, expands upon violence of different forms.

That's funny, I always thought civil people strived to refine themselves, refrain from violence, and look for new ways to peacefully resolve conflicts. I believe what you meant to say was "anarchy thrives, grows, expands upon violence", but chaos would also fit that statement.

Sex is a violent act.

Sex is so broad a term as to be inclusive of violent acts, yes, but intercourse between two people, as most people do it, is not violent. Sex is the physical representation of the love between two people. That statement is basicly saying that love is a violent act, which is total bull.

Arguing is a violent act

Verbal abuse is a violent act, arguing is not.

Shouting is a violent act

How so?

There is violence everywhere, in everything. So why do we condemn it so much?

There is not violence in everything. We discourage violence becuase it leads to suffering. No one wants to suffer, so therefore, we try to curb violence in hopes that it will reduce suffering. Why are you encouraging violence, is the real question. Do you enjoy suffering? Does it do something for you? Do you have a violence fetish? It seems to me that you must, as no sane person would encourage violence the way that you do. You obviously must enjoy it.

All we have are morales, faith, and the law to keep us on the straight and narrow. we slip at times, we all do.

We have so much more than that. Self-control, the desire to better ourselves, responsibility, respect. The list is quite long. The law is there to catch those who slip, and is not perfect by any means. Faith has nothing to do with keeping anyone anywhere. Religion, on the other hand, is there to set an example, and to bring hope to people's lives. Everyone makes mistakes, yes, but most people strive to learn from their mistakes, and improve their lives.

some people have rough lives, they know no other way to survive than through violence. so much so that it becomes an addiction.

I have an extreemly rough life, and I can safely say that I am one of the most patient, honest and caring individuals I know. I abhor violence, and take offence to the statement that I am somehow ignorant of non-violent solutions, and therefore addicted to violence. Your stereotypical outlook on people with troubled lives appalls me.

I know these all intimately. why else would I be so passionate about my beliefs?

You don't know diddly about life. I doubt you've had any real life experiences. Your statements in this community prove that you have no clue how to act in a civilized society. I can only gather that you're so passionate becuase you're unhappy with yourself. You strive to make people think you're knowledgable in the ways of life, but you only succeed in making a complete fool of yourself.

I may only be 21, but ive experienced alot through friends and their experiences.

I do not believe you are 21, but that's not really the issue here. Unless you have personally gone through something, I don't consider it experiencing it. I doubt many other people do either. That statement above would be like saying you know what it's like to be shot, just becuase you saw it on T.V., which is rediculous.

family and friends, people i talk to. they become an extension of my life and its experiences. its mine and theirs' collective beliefs that drive me to think this way.

If that's the case, may I suggest divorcing your parents and getting some new friends, becuase it's obviously not working out for you. I would also suggest a psychiatric evaluation.

I look for the overall best way to deal with things. I put myself in the shoes of criminals when thinking about their punishment. i try to put myself into having a 5 year sentance slapped on me, and still have people screaming at me. I picture them and see a murderer, yet i know they are scared.

With the raod you're heading down, you won't have to imagine what it's like for too long.

it can be anyone. I know they look at everyone as they are put away, its at first frustration, but it soon turns to anger towards everyone.

Again, you're wrong. Not every person in jail or prison hates everyone else that's not just becuase they are locked up. Some people actually take resposibilty for their own actions and desicions, and realize that they are the only ones to blame for their predicament. The ones that do blame the world are in denial, and will have a hard time adjusting to a normal life in society. Those are the ones that tend make a career out of crime.

We as free citizens really are far too vocal about things. we really dont need to be. this is different as its written, not in public where the "criminal" will eventually be going past.

I'd say we're just the opposite. As for the rest of that, I'd comment on it if I could understand what the heck you're talking about.

There are far too many factors and I could go on all night, im afraid this has gone on too long and my fingers are cramping up.

I agree this has gone on too long.

~X

I hear you making replies to everything i said, but i cant. (HEAR) you. your not making a point with your statements, which means you are to be overlooked