sorry, but the part about warning people about copyrights is completely optional.
It is not required by law for a person to state that something is copyrighted, in fact, its up to each individual to research whether something is copyrighted BEFORE attempting to copyright something themselves.
Since Dantom is the only Official voice on BYOND outside of the forums, it is truly up to them to hear the complaints of the owners who complain about their games being ripped, and its up to them to either release personal information of the criminals to the police on request, or to do things the easy way and completely remove and prevent future uploading of illigal games, or break keys of repeat offenders.
Dantom doesnt want to do this but its coming to the point where they will have to.
Dareb wrote:
Since Dantom is the only Official voice on BYOND outside of the forums, it is truly up to them to hear the complaints of the owners who complain about their games being ripped, and its up to them to either release personal information of the criminals to the police on request, or to do things the easy way and completely remove and prevent future uploading of illigal games, or break keys of repeat offenders. We've told you a thousand times that this is not "easy". It's not feasible by any stretch of the imagination. You're also mistaken to think that police would be involved. Copyright infringement is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. (Outright piracy is another matter.) Dantom doesnt want to do this but its coming to the point where they will have to. Not at all. But we're well past the point where you have to stop bringing this up, or future posts are just gonna silently disappear. Lummox JR | |
You're dead wrong here... if you were saying that what RaeKwon did was different because he checked with Funimation, then you'd have a case that could possibly hold up in court... but an icon that "looks like Goku and is called Goku but isn't Goku" doesn't work. If it just looked like Goku but was called Jimbo and used in a story that was nothing like Dragonball Z, then you might have a case.
My point here is that RaeKwon is massively hypocritical on the subject of originality, and he is. There's no way around that. I believe originality should be protected, but that obviously doesn't apply to unoriginality. You're saying if someone drew a mouse for their cartoons which looked a lot like Mickey but with different colors and name, Disney couldn't touch them? I dare you to put that one to the test. Furthermore, Rae's not the only one here with a double standard... dare I remind you of the time you threatened to sue someone for drawing a completely different dagger with a completely different liquid dripping from it? | |
Rae, build a new map, get some new icons, and change the name to something other than Zeta and people will shut up. Or just ban them from the game. Or start completely over on a new project. The rips won't go away until people stop hosting the files or claiming that they made the game.
Bottom line: Rae does own Zeta, but the game blows anyway cause its ripped off over 10 million times. Have a nice day :) | |
Stop bringing your DBZ evil to the forums and BYOND.
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Since Dantom is the only Official voice on BYOND outside of the forums, it is truly up to them to hear the complaints of the owners who complain about their games being ripped, and its up to them to either release personal information of the criminals to the police on request, or to do things the easy way and completely remove and prevent future uploading of illigal games, or break keys of repeat offenders. If there is any reason to believe that someone has obtained private code through a breach of Hub security, then of course Dantom will take an interest because the Hub is designed to provide security for people's intellectual property. If DBZ: Ultriment's author never gives out the source but people still manage to get hold of the source, the legal status of DBZ: U itself is not their concern -- their concern is making sure that the exploit isn't repeated for other games that are legitimate intellectual property. That said, I haven't seen anything so far to indicate that there is a flaw in Hub security. As far as I can tell, the problems originate from the author passing the code to someone. And then, like the old commercial said, "they'll tell two friends... and they'll tell two friends... and so on, and so on, and so on." That is not a failure of Hub security and thus isn't Dantom's concern. | |
Heh, that's chump change compared to what I've actually spent on the most expensive pieces of my collection...
Try $300 (plus S&H) for a package of three action figures (the coveted "Bandai SBC Movie 7 Three Pack" for those who know a bit about DBZ collectibles... they usually sell for over $400, so I think I got a deal...lol as a side note, this is the only part of my collection that is still in the original box... I've opened everything but this... it's still sealed in plastic, in fact...) Or perhaps close to $500 for the full set of Japanese Manga volumes (that's including a hefty shipping fee to ship all 42, 3/4 inch thick paperback books by boat from Singapore to the US) A few other things in this room ran me close to $100... For the most part, for the rest of the stuff I've paid either retail, or a small amount over retail (in some cases, thanks to eBay, I've paid less than retail) Waste of money? Probably... But aren't most collections? I consider it "entertainment expenses"... | |
I just came back here after a few months and saw this post.
The only reason people rip Zeta is cause they think it will make them more popular on BYOND. As most of you may remember, I was here when the original was out. I was here when Zeta was first ripped. I remember very clearly when Dracon handed Zeta to RaeKwon. Zeta is RaeKwon's and if some of you people are too stupid to relise that, I personally don't think your smart enough for the BYOND community. | |
time for me to get into the middle of this.ive read a few of these posts and i would like to say its not about jsut owning Dragonball/z/gt its about owning a fan game based off of the show that was made and copywrited by Dracon then givin to RaeKwon which is copywrited still.if u dont understand this,ill find the law and present it into this forum.
basically if u copy anything of zeta without having permission you could have a bunch of evil stuff happen to u (language of the n00b rippers) now i wonder who's gonna pop up and argue about this one | |
Alright, here is how Dragonball Zeta rips(and maybe even RaeKwon's, not sure if he takes them)are breaking copyright laws:
You are taking donations. Now, Dragonball has declared copyrights...which means that if they take you to court, not only can they destroy the game, take all your profits, and make you pay for their attournies fees, they may also file a lawsuit saying that they LOST money to you because their customers payed for your product instead of yours(Taking double your profits, maybe even putting a mark on that permanent record) In other words, if you benefit financially from so much as the name or idea, you COULD be in serious trouble. HOWEVER, some games stand clear of this problem be receiving confirmation by the parent company that it is ok to make a fan based executable using foreign software. My suggestion? Don't take donations for the game if it's in the intellectual property of the company. If you wanna sell a service in the game for a few dimes, I don't think yer crossing any problem...just don't take their money for your rip("Fan game") | |
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If you wanna sell a service in the game for a few dimes, I don't think yer crossing any problem...just don't take their money for your rip("Fan game") And this is where you are totally wrong. Exchanging money for service sis illegal, but taking donations is not. | |
taking donations isnt illigal, if they award people for giving donations, thats the same as purchasing something in a copyrighted game, which is then, illigal.
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entirely correct garthor, but I can still see where hes coming from. and how he made the small mistake
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true, collectors can actually become wealthy by getting rare objects, and selling them each together at an inflated price
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Taking money for an idiology which is not your is illigial(if it's copyrighted)
Offering a personal service having nothing to do with the copyrighted material is legal. That is where you are wrong. | |
no, read the law over again or rub the sleep from your eyes.
You cant take money in return for services, but donations are fine. end all be all im not replying to this again, ignorance is not bliss. | |
I know my copyright, fair use, and public domain wisdom pretty well.
Let's say John Doe takes a donation for 50bucks from Jane Doe. The donation was for a cool game called DBZ99999. Jane, later, wants to become level 99999. Joe says "Sure, for 50bucks" Joe has made 100bucks off Jane. Let's break it down: Joe just made 50 bucks off of a game based around a copyrighted material. She actually gave him money for the ideas which were actually SOMEONE else's. I hope Mr. DBZ finds you. Now, Jane payed 50 bucks for another thing...level 99999. How is the number 99999 associated(copyrighted)by Mr. DBZ's company? It isn't. HOWEVER, since you broke one law, and it stems from the same game, Mr. DBZ can now take all 100, plus some more because he registered his last name with the copyright office. Poor Joe shoulda settled with selling numbers. ~CalmStorm | |
These are his only limits when it comes to his rights on BYOND.
When people use ZETA code and Icons in whole or in part without consulting him first and receiving a "yes by all means go ahead" they are breaking the laws.
What pains me, lesbian assassin, is that you are giving leading questions to people to make them seem evil to others, believe it or not, conscious of it or not, You do this.
Please start focusing on the people who are actually doing Criminal activities instead of indirectly attacking those of us who are obeying the law.