Errors Not Appearing In Default Output

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Jul 24 2015, 11:34 pm
(See the best response by Ter13.)
The only way I'm able to see error messages anymore is under Options & Messages.

Has this been changed or is this an error?

~ Happens in every project I run including projects from others.
Jul 24 2015, 11:38 pm
It's working for me. Maybe you have multiple default outputs?
Jul 24 2015, 11:41 pm
Indeed, outputs need to be marked default.

You can deliberately output to the Options & Messages menu using world.log as the left hand argument to the output operator.
Jul 24 2015, 11:53 pm
Thanks but I actually already have my output set to default.

Jul 24 2015, 11:55 pm
try running:

world.log << winget(usr,"output","is-default")


right after the world has loaded to see whether another control is taking precedence.
Jul 24 2015, 11:56 pm
In response to Ter13
Output in Options & Messages was 'true'
Jul 25 2015, 12:00 am
In response to Ter13
Oh hey, it did actually output that world.log to the output. It put 'true' in the output.

But when an error happens it only outputs to Options & Messages.

Strangeness...


Jul 25 2015, 12:01 am
Huh... That's odd... I don't use outputs in my projects, but this might be related to the error changes lummox made in the most recent builds of BYOND.
Jul 25 2015, 12:05 am
In response to Ter13
I'm thinking so. One more piece of information. Errors actually start coming onto the output when I do this:

mob
    Login()
        world.log << winget(usr,"output","is-default")
        var/list/L = new/list()
        L[0] = 5




But not when I do this:

mob
    Login()
        var/list/L = new/list()
        L[0] = 5
Jul 25 2015, 12:29 am
In response to Zecronious
It's clearly a quantum mechanical effect; you're changing the result by observing it.
Jul 25 2015, 1:16 am
Best response
Ah. These errors might be popping up because the client hasn't initialized by the time they occur.
Jul 25 2015, 1:24 am
In response to Ter13
Yep that was it.

Outputs errors fine:
mob
    verb
        test()
            var/list/L = new/list()
            L[0] = 5