Well I was just wondering...
Can a person be banned for being offensive to people simply because there diffrent (in this case gay) even if it's in there own game?
If so can you do something about Evilvegetto?
Sorry but I don't have any log or anything (I didn't think to do it at the time).
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 Mar 21 2003, 11:55 am
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What I can't see is, even if someone is gay, why would that change anything about them but their sexuallity and interests? If a person is likable, and even though he is gay, goes around and no-one knows he is gay, there is quite a chance he will be very liked. But once he admits hes gay, all the suddon everyone judges him, even though they liked him before.
I think a person discriminating against any type of people is wrong, even if it is a little uncomfortable to some people. I've never really seen much of it myself except people trying to make fun of people who arn't gay by calling them gay, but I've never actually met a gay person that I knew was gay, so I wouldn't really know how badly they are discriminated against constantly. | |
To be honist, i think if its thier game, they have the right to choose who can and cant play for whatever reason, now if they insult anyone for thier believes or sexual prefrences, that is wrong. Now this is just my personal fealings. Please, no one get offended, i dont feal this is offencive, but if you take offence to it im sorry, its just my openion
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I agree with Spuzzum. I'm not into that, I mean, we can be friends and all except... I will NOT share any drinks/food (by that I mean eating the same piece of pizza, drinking the same soda, popcorn and all that stuff is cool). Anyways, if a gay person tries a move on me, hell yeah I would hit them. I wouldn't beat them within an inch of thier life (unless they tried to rape me), but I would sure as hell fight back. But I wouldn't harrass somebody becuase they were homosexual. (Unless it is provoked)
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My take on the subject - a personal server, hosting a personal game... homophobia is beyond wrong, but I support anyone's right to ban anyone they want, for whatever reason (or lack of reason) they want. I believe discrimination should be discouraged, and even illegal in the area of "public accomodations," but people have the right to restrict access to their own personal servers.
I'm speaking both as one of the most visibly gay members of the BYOND community and someone who wholeheartedly believes in the right of restricting access. If someone doesn't want you to connect to their game, that's their decision...if it's due to a personal difference in beliefs and values, why do you want to patronize them to begin with? | |
I'm not bothered about being banned from the game but what he actually said. Which for obvious reasons I wont quote.
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Well put Kunark. It's sad that stuff like this happens everywhere and theres almost nothing we can do to stop it. But some of us try.
Funny this topic came up. Today at my school we had our annual stomp out racism walk. We got pledge forms and collected money that went to the Stop Racism fund with the Canadian government or some place like that. | |
Yuugi wrote:
I'm not bothered about being banned from the game but what he actually said. Which for obvious reasons I wont quote. As far as I know, Dantom typically only polices its own server resources--they have cut off pager access in a few cases of extreme pager abuse, and the general forum is policed by moderators appointed by Dantom, as both of these run directly off of Dantom's servers, but the only cases I know of when a specific person/game was targeted were due to overly explicit game listings. Depending on how abusive he actually was, there may be some sketchy beginnings of a legal case there; however, I seriously doubt this could possibly be worth it, nor would I personally believe in the moral soundness of such a case. If he were a player on someone else's server, that would be another story, but still hardly worth a legal battle. | |
Well, I also support freedom of expression... I certainly would not accept any restrictions on what I'm allowed to say to people who connect to my server, so I cannot turn around and say, "You can't say this."
I'm not saying what he said is right, or okay, or acceptable. There is a difference between having a right and being right. He has rights. I feel confident saying that's he wrong, but he still has rights to say it. | |
I'm glad I live in an area that racism isn't really an issue. He have discrimination against some cultures, but no actual color-of-skin or what-country-your-from racism.
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I find the term "Homophobic" pretty funny... Although I do feel uneasy around males of the opposite sexual preference I still remain open minded, but I seriously have never seen anyone "Homophobic" react to a homosexual in the same manor that an arachnophobic person would to a spider... I can see it now...
<vision> Homosexual: "hi" Homophobic person: "OH MY GOD HE IS CREEPY! GET HIM OFF! EEW!! GET SOME RAID!! EAK!!" </vision> I wonder who the strange person was that used that term to describe the inability to accept another person's choice... As the subject goes, there are many people that are ignorant to the subject of homosexuality (I am slightly one of them, but I do bite my tongue and deal with it) if it was their terrain on which they made the decision, than it is entirely up to them as to what decisions they make. Asking someone here to do something about it would be the same as trying to enforce Affirmative Action within the Klu Klux Klan... It will never happen. -=Ken=- | |
Since everyone else is sharing their opinions on homosexuality and/or homophobics, I might as well too. Although I am uncomfortable around homosexual people, I'm okay with them as long as they don't go parading around. My opinions may seem a bit harsh... I suppose you could actually call me homophobic...
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I wouldn't doubt that most people who don't admit they are homosexual are, simply because of some peoples beliefs. If I held any attraction to a person of the same sex, I would keep it as an utter secret myself, that is of course to evade the harassment, and in this essence is the reason why it doesn't bother me if someone is homosexual. I actually hold a high amount of respect to those who come out, since I realize that coming out can make your life a little, or a lot harder.
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I for one, being completely straight respect the rights and openness of all bisexual and homosexual people. The only time I would not appreciate the company of a homosexual/bisexual person in my presense is if they were not just verbally hitting on my, but in some way is physically hitting on me. I also denounce any forced behaviors of sexual nature, but that is not a matter of homosexuality or bisexuality, its a matter of rape which is always wrong.
However, I say this. I support the choices these people make. anyone I hear making jokes or slurrs towards about or using words remotely insulting to homosexuals or bisexuals forfeit friendship with me, and perhaps future connection to games I may one day create. Apologies are NOT accepted. | |
if they hit on you, just tell them you are straight. If they persist, beat on them. I dont care for people who are persistant in methods of courtship, regardless of sexual preference.
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Dareb wrote:
if they hit on you, just tell them you are straight. If they persist, beat on them. I dont care for people who are persistant in methods of courtship, regardless of sexual preference. There are going to be a lot of very bruised straight men in the world if women ever decide to follow up on what I'm reading in this thread... | |
anyone I hear making jokes or slurrs towards about or using words remotely insulting to homosexuals or bisexuals forfeit friendship with me, and perhaps future connection to games I may one day create. Best offer I've had all day. God damn gays! | |
I know a few people who are homosexual, and I honestly don't feel any different about them than I do about other people I know. They are my friends, and know that im straight, and have never tried to hit on me. Even if they did, I would never resort to violence against them, nomatter how persistent they became.
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Hopefully the world will start getting more tolerant of issues like this; there's no legitimate reason why heterosexual people should show so much hatred towards people that aren't heterosexual. I'll admit I have a minor distaste for it, just because I don't really like the concept of another male being attracted to me sexually, but that's as far as I go. Heck, some of the people I like most around here aren't heterosexual. I simply accept the fact that they're different than me, and quit worrying about it.
Note: you've gone onto a pretty touchy subject, so if this thread gets closed, don't take offense -- it's simply because these boards don't tolerate discrimination/racism/unfounded-hatred whatsoever, and if this topic goes in that general direction the moderators might have to stop it.