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 Aug 1 2003, 9:17 am
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They just walk into (well, log into) Classified Ads and think they can find someone who will teach them DM. What's with that? Why don't they just use demos, tutorials, and the forums, blue book, FAQ, and reference for help?
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Foomer wrote:
Everyone learns differently. Some people learn best from having the information written down and in front of them, some people learn best from actively using that information, and some people learn best from having someone else show them how its done. That's one reason people get such wildly different grades in school. Yes one of the biggest improvements that could be made to these forums is for people to stop judging other people for how they learn. I don't mean we shouldn't ping people who aren't trying to learn (no one is served by the person who literally wants every line of their game written for them, and who doesn't take any initiative to understand how things work), but for people who are trying to learn, we should stop telling them they are learning in the wrong way. If a person is trying to learn in a way that doesn't fit your style, just don't respond and move on to answering the question of someone you are more compatible with. And in cases where someone is clearly over their head trying to deal with any programming at all, we should point them to other "no code" systems like GameMaker, rather than belittling them. | |
Ok. You wanna delete this thread? Or leave it up for other people to read?
If they can find someone to help them, good for them. <-Airjoe-> (No sarcasm intended) | |
Airjoe wrote:
Ok. You wanna delete this thread? Or leave it up for other people to read? No I think it's a useful conversation. You can trust that I delete conversations I don't think provide a purpose...:) | |
I learn at my best when someone is showing me what to do, if I have to self-teach or be told what to do, I find it a lot harder to do and for that matter, it sometimes confuses me.
As you did state though, people vary from learning styles, not only that, but their style of teachings are also different too. Someone who has the same skill, knowledge and basic intelligence as another person, would not teach people in an identical way to the other person. As person "A" would find one way to teach a learner faster, simpler and better in their opinion, whereas person "B" would more than likely find a way which is faster, simpler and better to teach others, but therein is based on their opinions. Sorry for saying this, but I am just slurring things tonight as I have been very unaware of my surroundings for a little while, with being tired and all hehe. So if anyone finds my post a little stupid or unnecessary, then delete it. (<font color="#FF0000">this sentence is for the moderators</font>) Anyway... Chao! --Lee | |
I think pretty much everyone does that. But personally I don't gain much from it unless I actively use it. The best way for me to learn is to see an example of something done (so I can figure out how on earth to make it work), then recreate it myself.
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Hm, as for me, I prefer trial and error. Namely, screwing up again and again until I get it right. Though, occasionally, if I can't figure something out, I will ask others for help.
As far as what I think, when new programmers ask for a tutor, it means that they want to somehow contribute to the BYOND hub, and the community in general. (Meaning not rip games. =) So it's all a 10-4 in my eyes.. (Did I phrase that wrong?) | |
Besides, there's nothing wrong with wanting someone to teach you. There are a lot of bored programmrs around here, they're probably just too lazy or paranoid that the person will want to make another dbz game (or something else they hate).