Saying that the people behind the Matrix have made the sequels, the game and the animatrix for money is very innaccurate. Sure, the money is nice, and the money is the reason why all of these studios are willing to pay so much to let the Wachowski brothers do whatever they want with The Matrix. But the brothers themselves aren't in it for the money. They are in it to create something amazing, and to share it with other people.

Yeah I'll be making games for a living since that's what I like to do but that's not the only reason I'll be doing it. Given enough money there is little I won't do and I'm quite sure the same can be said of anyone. I highly doubt they would have put so much effort into it if they didn't expect to get a good amount in return.

Part of the reason that the first Matrix was so successful is because nothing like it had ever been done before. I could write a 40 page paper on the religous and philosophical influences in the first movie. I could probably write another 40 page paper on how they combined so many different art styles in shooting the movie, and why it worked so well.

Given the time I could do the same thing for any movie, book, game, rant, ect. There are so many religions, philosophies, rantings that it would be hard to find something with no patterns or any kind of significance.

This is why you can get lots of people thinking Nostradamus could predict the future. If you write enough vague statments you're bound to be vaguely close to something that has happined or will happin.

I'm quite certain there was a lot of intended meanings put in, but I'm even more certain there's more garbage that people found through vague coincidences and looking too hard for something that isn't there.

Now that kind of thing is hard to top, for anyone.

Not really, get enough recognition and you'll have thouands to millions of people digging through your work finding meanings you never intended in the first place.

In creating the sequels, the Wachowski brothers have gone all out. This is the first time that a movie and a video game have ever been integrated. This is the first time that something like "The Animatrix" has ever been compiled as a back story for a motion picture. Considering that The Matrix came out in 1999, it's amazing that they've managed to do so much in such a little amount of time.

Just go through the extra's on the second disc of the Reloaded DVD. They said that Reloaded and Revolutions was originally going to be one movie and that the Animatrix was more of a spur of the moment type of thing. You're seeing more detail and planning than actually happined.

There is no denying that the special effects are absolutely incredible as well. Heck, for Revolutions they spent 40 million dollars on just the 14 minute fight for Zion.

It's not about how many special effects you have but how you applied them. I thought the fights in the original Matrix and some parts of Reloaded were cool because they pulled off making the action look real despite bending a few physical rules. Usually when you do this it tends to just look cheesy(just look at a lot of those old chinese martial arts movies), but they made it look seemless and believable. In Reloaded some of the stuff Neo did looked blatantly fake which I didn't like even if he was supposed to be able to do it. My favorite fight scene in the movie was the first one with the three agents since he didn't go overboard on defying gravity, inertia, and all the other laws of physics he broke while taking on the Smiths.

The Wachowski brothers had a chance to do everything that they could possibly dream of with their creation, and have done it. Saying that they were in it just for the money is an injustice to all of the effot they've put into creating something incredible.

It's not just for the money but I think money played a much bigger part than you're willing to believe.

Hedgemistress wrote:

Here's a novel solution... pretend that it's an open-ended story, like "The Lady or the Tiger". That's probably better than actually seeing the ending because, really, after all that build up, could any actual ending measure up to the expectations in your head?

You're right, now the actual ending is not going to be nearly as cool as I've been anticipating all day long.

Since I saw the movie so early this morning, it almost feels like it was a dream (the fact that I went to sleep right away after getting back probably helped with that effect). It's just kind of a strange situation overall, and it should be interesting to see how different the experience is tonight.

SilkWizard wrote:

Also, all of the critics who are giving the movie mixed reviews should be forced to quit their jobs and start working at McDonalds.

What did you expect? They're movie critics; they're paid to find nonexistant flaws in movies. If people thought that movies as a whole were basically good, then the critics would be out of a job anyways because people would just go to the theater and watch whatever happened to look good. By putting a pessimistic slant on everything, critics attempt to convince people that movies are usually a waste of time, implying that moviegoers need to consult the reviews in order to find a show that's any good.

[EDIT] I should also add that my local (ish) paper gave Revolutions 3 out of 2.5 stars. Or at least I've always assumed that they rated movies out of 2.5 stars, because that's the most I've ever seen them give anything before.

I myself like the animatrix, the blood and gore in the war was just so sickening it was great.

Maz wrote:

The third is easily my favourite of the trilogy, I loved the first but the huge-ness of the 3rd was overwhelmingly good!

I kind of agree, though obviously I'm not 100% sure on why you are unhappy over the ending, my girlfriend kept wanting it to be slightly different. I think that its a perfect ending.

Yeah, I still am actually switching between the last and first. I was just wishing that certain event didn't happen at the end, but I guess it makes sense, and it was the only thing that could really be done.

I think the movie was cool and all, but I was really confused. Prehaps you can shed some light on all the insanity.
a. did neo die or what?
b. are we to really believe that the machines will just unpulug everyone and everyone will be friends?
c. what the hell was with the trainman and was was he and the merovincian in the film for like 2 minutes?
d. why did the build up a great cliffhanger (neo passes out after stopping sentinenls) only to kill it in 2 minutes?
e. what was that fettish scene in the dance thingy suppost to be?
f. what the hell was with the little girl?
g. no really, why the hell was she there?
h. why didn't neo save trinity? he obviouslly could, since he was "the one" in not only the matrix but in the real world?
i. where did the twins go? were they dead? wtf???

and if you have any questions too, please help me....so cold....no blanket can ever make me warm again.....

Hedgemistress wrote:

you may consider editing your previous post to include a spoiler warning, as well.

Yeah, if I was a Matrix fan, and I could reach you, I'd be punching you right now. =P

Hedgemistress wrote:

I was just wishing that certain event didn't happen at the end, but I guess it makes sense, and it was the only thing that could really be done.

I wish you hadn't said that, you just wrecked the ending for everyone. Well, not everyone. Just for the really intuitive.

Sorry, was trying to say it in a way it wouldn't ruin something. It also is just my opinion though, dosn't mean anything actually bad happens at the end.

Five tons of flax? Yummy! How about 23 tons of flax? Or better yet fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord? 23 skidoo? Hail Eris? You're such a discordian bastard, it's great (or is it?)everything is false and permissable or is it or is it?

Maz wrote:

The third is easily my favourite of the "trilogy"

You shouldn't really call it that. It wasn't really 3 films, at first it was just going to be 1 and 2, but 2 became too long so they split it into 2 and 3. Did you notice how 6 months went between 1 and 2, but only a few hours between 2 and 3?

~Ease~