In response to Cheuq
Oh, yeah. *cough*kazaa*cough*

So, anywho, where did you purchase these at? Any good prices?

:-D

~Kujila
In response to Spuzzum
I disagree with the argument that it's lack of using MDI makes it less popular. If anything, myself and several hundred other graphic designers consider the interface system far more manageable and customizable because it is *not* MDI based. It's worked this way for years under Linux- in fact many (if not the majority) of Linux apps don't use an MDI-style interface, and with Linux's growing popularity people are obviously not complaining about it- so why sacrifice that type of usefulness just to run under Windows?

In response to DarkView
I don't mind installing it, I just can't stand using it. :P
In response to Kujila
Kujila wrote:
So, anywho, where did you purchase these at? Any good prices?

Photoshop Elements is only $50 for students. As long as you're not a professional graphic designer doing print work (thus needing CMYK), Elements has everything you would need from the full Photoshop, at a greatly reduced price!

I use Gimp, personally, but the interface is horrible. Luckily I'm used to it. I'm also bugging my wife to get me PS Elements (she works for a college and can get the above discount) because some of its filters are simply much better than anything Gimp has (dust & scratches for one - great for cleaning up noisy, low light digital camera photos).
In response to digitalmouse
digitalmouse wrote:
I disagree with the argument that it's lack of using MDI makes it less popular. If anything, myself and several hundred other graphic designers consider the interface system far more manageable and customizable because it is *not* MDI based. It's worked this way for years under Linux- in fact many (if not the majority) of Linux apps don't use an MDI-style interface, and with Linux's growing popularity people are obviously not complaining about it- so why sacrifice that type of usefulness just to run under Windows?

Then those users must not use Windows on a regular basis. When your primary OS for development and work is Windows, consistency is the most important thing.

What's probably the most irritating about the interface is that each separate window appears on your taskbar -- when you have even ten different images open, your taskbar looks like Princess Diana's funeral.
In response to Foomer
When I was enthralled with Linux, I opened GIMP a couple of times, then ran home crying to the simplicity of my MSPAINT.

~Kujila
In response to Kujila
I still can't draw a normal picture in GIMP, I always get side tracked with the stupid brushes. Its like, "oh that looks cool, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz(sound of painting), damnit, that looks like crap."
In response to Jotdaniel
Sounds like my first experience in Photoshop....

...except instead of brushes, I attempted to create an entire work of art from filters... *shudders*

~Kujila
In response to Spuzzum
Spuzzum wrote:
What's probably the most irritating about the interface is that each separate window appears on your taskbar -- when you have even ten different images open, your taskbar looks like Princess Diana's funeral.

Or if you have XP, they all get grouped into a single button, which is increadibly annoying.
In response to Jon88
You can actually turn off the windows XP grouping function, I my self keep it off.
In response to Kujila
Ya, that is a big problem with gimp, but really, for Pixel art, Gimp is better than PS and PSP.
In response to Wanabe
Yes, but then you have 20 gimp items in the taskbar.
In response to Jon88
Jon88 wrote:
Spuzzum wrote:
What's probably the most irritating about the interface is that each separate window appears on your taskbar -- when you have even ten different images open, your taskbar looks like Princess Diana's funeral.

Or if you have XP, they all get grouped into a single button, which is increadibly annoying.

I agree about the bazillion buttons, but the button-grouping solves that nicely (several flavors of Linux do that too). And since I use 2-3 monitors at a time (depending on whether I'm using a desktop or laptop) spreading things out feels easier to do with the multiple menus. My only real gripe is that I can't figure out if there is a way save a menu layout so that I don't have to rebuild it each time I use GIMP. I suppose I could write a little script for that, but just have not had the time to dig into it.
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